Random Tip Question

StraydoG · Post by **StraydoG** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:55 am

Just for general use with a auto/tip gearbox...

Is it bad if you are reversing and you flick your car into drive while its still traveling backwards? 5, maybe 10kph?

Is it better to put your car into neutral while waiting at the lights or does that not make much of a difference?

If racing from a still start, would you rev at all and does anyone know what gears are strongest? lower/higher?

Random thoughts of does it make a difference, should I be doing that.

nosman · Post by **nosman** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:20 am

hehe you going street racing?

TCGPX · Post by **TCGPX** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:41 pm

StraydoG wrote:Is it bad if you are reversing and you flick your car into drive while its still traveling backwards? 5, maybe 10kph?

I did it once while only just rolling and it didn't feel good. Haven't done it since. I'd say yes. Definitely at 10km/h.

StraydoG wrote:If racing from a still start, would you rev at all and does anyone know what gears are strongest? lower/higher?

Best way I know to launch an auto is to apply brakes (either left foot on brake or handbrake), bring up the revvs (mine sits on about 2.5k) then floor it the rest of the way while taking the brakes off.
NOTE: do not keep the revvs raised with brakes on for long, it heats up trans fluid and you'll end up cooking something.
For gears: what do you mean by strongest? Is it a 4 or 5 spd tip?

topao · Post by **topao** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:50 pm

StraydoG wrote:Just for general use with a auto/tip gearbox...

Is it bad if you are reversing and you flick your car into drive while its still traveling backwards? 5, maybe 10kph?

I can admit ive been driving along a few times at around 60 and 70 and gone to change gears only to realise i wasnt in + or - but in drive and its gone to reverse for a about a second before i can shift it out, its not a good sound to be hearing.

Also went from drive to park a around 5kph that was also a pretty bad sound.

Engine doesnt run as well after doing such things takes weeks for it to recover.

So i would say yes its a bad thing doing it backwars i wouldnt try it

TCGPX · Post by **TCGPX** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:01 pm

topao wrote:I can admit ive been driving along a few times at around 60 and 70 and gone to change gears only to realise i wasnt in + or - but in drive and its gone to reverse for a about a second before i can shift it out, its not a good sound to be hearing.

Your lucky you didn't break something...
There should be stopper to prevent it from shifting past neutral into reverse unless the button is pressed. Either check the adjustment for the button or make sure your not pressin it when you shift!
In tip mode it only needs the slightest nudge to change. Keep that in mind.

topao wrote:Also went from drive to park a around 5kph that was also a pretty bad sound.

I'd hate to be your tip box...

topao · Post by **topao** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:06 pm

TCGPX wrote:
topao wrote:I can admit ive been driving along a few times at around 60 and 70 and gone to change gears only to realise i wasnt in + or - but in drive and its gone to reverse for a about a second before i can shift it out, its not a good sound to be hearing.
Your lucky you didn't break something...
There should be stopper to prevent it from shifting past neutral into reverse unless the button is pressed. Either check the adjustment for the button or make sure your not pressin it when you shift!
In tip mode it only needs the slightest nudge to change. Keep that in mind.
topao wrote:Also went from drive to park a around 5kph that was also a pretty bad sound.

I'd hate to be your tip box...

The only time i press the button is when i take it out of park any othertime my hand isnt near it.

How do i check the stopper and where abouts is the stopper?

TCGPX · Post by **TCGPX** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:26 pm

topao wrote:The only time i press the button is when i take it out of park any othertime my hand isnt near it.
How do i check the stopper and where abouts is the stopper?

If you use 2 small (jeweller style) flat head screwdrivers you can lever the button out of the top of the shifter (Be careful, scratches and dents are permanent). There are 2 clip parts on the sides.

You can then adjust the height of the plastic bit on the end of the thread.

Try playing around with that (can't help you too much with adjusting stock one, didn't try that) but I'd say your button is pressing down a little too much.
There was a DIY on on how to remove the auto shifter knob with pics at www.funky-fto.co.uk, but looks like they're charging now.

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:02 pm

I have a manual but one time when i was going into my old work's carpark and it's a steep slope to get up, and the car was rolling back and i put it in first gear too late and i heard this loud crunching noise and it was so bad.. like i was probably going like 2 kms or sumthin but it sounded realy bad, but it was just a grinding noise, if i heard a "CLOnK" i would have knocked something out.

and i could not even imagine how something didnt blow up when u were driving and threw it in reverse

StraydoG · Post by **StraydoG** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:08 pm

Nah Im not racing, but if I wa goofing around with a friend it would be handy to know.

5spd tip. For strongest I mean lower 1 & 2 or higher 3, 4, & 5. In terms of acceleration.

Ill make sure my car has completely stopped then before I go into drive, just incase.

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:02 pm

I hope it doesn't cause too much damage... I was changin' it up in teh Tip' a couple of days ago, and it accidentally slipped up into neutral, only for a split second before i realised and flicked it back into drive, but now i don't think the LED for the 'D' works (if it ever did) - the little square that surrounds the letter for when you're in 'drive'

Is my little baby going to be alright?

Nacho · Post by **Nacho** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:51 pm

StraydoG wrote:Just for general use with a auto/tip gearbox...

Is it bad if you are reversing and you flick your car into drive while its still traveling backwards? 5, maybe 10kph?

Definitely not good for your torque converter. Once I was really tired on the way home at a ridiculous hour and wasn't really paying attention going around a roundabout at a proper speed, accidentally shifted to N (after thinking I was in tip mode) car revved to 7500rpm then quickly shifted back to D (after being startled) and bye bye torque converter.

Definitely a tow job at that point.

Camo · Post by **Camo** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:11 pm

I once saw a taxi that was driving down the spreet at about 15km/h and suddenly changed to Reverse because he missed the street he was going to turn down, the entire drive shaft broke and was dragging along the ground.

I didnt think it would ever be that bed, but it was the funniest/most fucked up thing i have ever seen happen to a car!!!

As for a starting launch, if you want to be quicker, launching from maybe 2k revs in 1st should give you a nice start, dont push it too far or you will start doing permanent damage!

Post by **BorepYano** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:39 pm

well if u r just mucking around with a friend then u'll only end up using 1st and 2nd gear (2nd gear will get u to 100km+) anyway so no point in finding out which gear accelerates the fastest lol (besides the lower the gear the fast anyway, since the power band for an fto is right at the top end anyway).

basically if u were to... say... race around for a whole night with randoms on the street + highway non stop (assuming u r at least sensible enough to only go to the speed limit or just over), u'll never get out of 2nd gear

and dont change in the auto mode while the car is moving, unless it's to N, and then wait till your car is stopped before changing gears. i did it just before coming home, was tired and for some reason when i changed gears with my right hand (was holding a drink in the left), from R i decided to change up

, straight into P, not a nice feeling nor sound.

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:43 pm

mr-charisma wrote:I hope it doesn't cause too much damage... I was changin' it up in teh Tip' a couple of days ago, and it accidentally slipped up into neutral, only for a split second before i realised and flicked it back into drive, but now i don't think the LED for the 'D' works (if it ever did) - the little square that surrounds the letter for when you're in 'drive'

Is my little baby going to be alright?

well i dont think putting it in nuetral is going to do anything bad to it. since when your changing from 2nd to 3rd gear, the car goes into neutral anyway while its shifting from one gear to another, so basically there is never anything wrong with putting it into neutral, ever.

Post by **BorepYano** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:17 am

subbie,

i thought when u put it into N while the car (automatic) is moving at high speed is bad cos the time it takes the car to figure out which gear its supposed to go... or somehting like that

could be completely wrong though lol

TCGPX · Post by **TCGPX** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:36 am

I've done the "thought I was in tip?" shift into neutral.
Realised pretty quickly so she didn't rev too hard.
Gave a great chirpie

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Don't want to do it again though

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khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:38 am

try it going down a hill...you will see what happens...put it into N and then roll....then put it back into D...dont use the accel.

not a big deal.

jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:49 am

BorepYano wrote:subbie,

i thought when u put it into N while the car (automatic) is moving at high speed is bad cos the time it takes the car to figure out which gear its supposed to go... or somehting like that

could be completely wrong though lol

subbie is talking about manual... but subbie is wrong cos this is topic is about a tip

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