General Noob questions on Fto's

BlkZR · Post by **BlkZR** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 4:40 pm

Sorry for the noob post but i did do a search but couldnt find the answers i was looking for.

A friend of mine is looking to buy an FTO. He's asked me to help him look for one... the thing is i know nothing about them, and im pretty sure non of our close friends know either?

General questions i have are:

1. From my knowledge the difference between a GR and GPX is that GPX has a mivec engine... roughly 10kws more power than the GR? not sure, but would there be any other models im unaware of?

2. How does the tip-tronic auto compare to manuals? I drive a 7th gen celica myself and due to the gearing... the tip-tronic mode is terrible (roughly 2 sec's diff down the 1/4 mile) --- my friend cant drive manual though

3. Finally the most important question, are there any common problems to look for in a second hand FTO?

Thanks guys/gurls for any input

Hobbsie · Post by **Hobbsie** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:02 pm

info for buying FTO:
http://www.myfto.co.uk/buyers.htm

different FTO specs and differences:
http://www.completefto.com.au/FTO_showcontent.asp?hid=111

BlkZR · Post by **BlkZR** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:52 pm

legend. Thanx dude

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:13 pm

GR

Max Power: 127kw @ 7000rpm
Max Torque: 186Nm @ 4000rpm
Weight: 1150(Manual) 1170(Auto/Tip)

GPX

Max Power: 150kw @ 7500rpm
Max Torque: 200Nm @ 6000rpm
Weight: 1170(Manual) 1190(Auto/Tip)

As the difference between Auto and Manual.. I have a 57 year old lady at work, she saw my car and said "ah well a car's a car, it has 4 wheels, thats all they mean to me, is it a Auto or Manual? There's no point of buying a sports car if it's going to be auto"

The difference.. well I own a GR, and a Manual GR will beat a Auto/Tip GPX.

Don't be fooled by GRs though, on this forum if you put the modified GRs vs the modified GPXs, you'll find the GRs will have the upper hand

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:29 pm

sublime19 wrote: Don't be fooled by GRs though, on this forum if you put the modified GRs vs the modified GPXs, you'll find the GRs will have the upper hand

I think you have to becareful on that, if you comparing Bennoz GR, his got a super special once off Ralliart version which you won't able to get those parts anywhere.

I yet to see someone have more real road power (not paper figure) then our ex president's GPX, and you can buy all the parts he mod from UAS & RPW.

EURO · Post by **EURO** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:01 pm

sublime19 wrote: Don't be fooled by GRs though, on this forum if you put the modified GRs vs the modified GPXs, you'll find the GRs will have the upper hand

agree with kev - loved to know how the maths were done on this one..

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:26 pm

was just trying to state that don't feel disadvantaged for owning a GR

as long as nobody buy's a GS all's good

RedlineGX · Post by **RedlineGX** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:47 pm

To be honest a properly working GR will out run a poorly maintained GPX, mivec is obviously faster but not to the point where you would buy one over a GR for that alone. The best part of mivec in the FTO is the sound for sure, i find though that they are really more prone to oil leaks.

If you can, find yourself a GX like what i have which is supposed to be just 10hp down from the mivec. Its basically a facelift (97+) GR with all of the available features installed. Plus easier to turbo charge than the GPX if you go that route which i did. I had a tiptronic transmission and changed to manual and the difference was quite surprising. Much more than the difference between mivec/non-mivec.

The link wouldve shown you the more common problems but they are all relatively minor. In all the FTO is a well, all be it, inexpensively built car that you can rely on and still have fun in

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:56 pm

RedlineGX wrote:To be honest a properly working GR will out run a poorly maintained GPX, mivec is obviously faster but not to the point where you would buy one over a GR for that alone. The best part of mivec in the FTO is the sound for sure, i find though that they are really more prone to oil leaks.

If you can, find yourself a GX like what i have which is supposed to be just 10hp down from the mivec. Its basically a facelift (97+) GR with all of the available features installed. Plus easier to turbo charge than the GPX if you go that route which i did. I had a tiptronic transmission and changed to manual and the difference was quite surprising. Much more than the difference between mivec/non-mivec.

The link wouldve shown you the more common problems but they are all relatively minor. In all the FTO is a well, all be it, inexpensively built car that you can rely on and still have fun in

very well written.. u no I didn't exactly know what GX was, always thought it was what some people called the GPX lol...