Danny's And Jeff's 6A13 turbo Conversions

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:16 am

well anyone want to take a video of it they are welcome but dont expect me to be smoking up the wheels, I want traction not wheel spin and i aint risking blowing things up for a burnout.

the twin plate clutch let go today at 372 Hp ATW and 1800 Lb tractive effort, to put this into perspective, one of the guys at SST has a skyline that goes 590 Hp ATW and is getting the same torque ( 1800 Lb tractive effort ) We didnt continue after that as it is back to the drawing board for the clutch.

So untill this clutch is sorted wont be going down the strip as there is no point if the clutch is slipping.

Damn clutch

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:54 am

so Danny how was the Tokyo Auto Salon trip.... We're still waiting on them pictures mate!

oh, and did you bring over what i asked for (no, i don't mean schoolgirl panties) hehehe...

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 3:22 pm

the show was great. spent the whole day there and still didnt get to see it all properly

got over 500 pics but some of them a bit blurry need to learn how to use this camera nearly all the car shots came out good it was just the shots of the girls that are a bit blurry, i think i had the wrong shutter setting

there wasnt any decent give aways though, just advertising, all the catalouges and calendars had to be paid for didnt even see any big posters. I picked up a heap of the advertising stuff.

There was some awesome cars there and so many cars with the vertical lift kit for the doors.

I asked about the kit for the FTO and they didnt do one but said they could do one up if i supplied them a car and would cost 250 000 yen, so about 3000 AUD

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:35 pm

just added the latest dyno chart for anyone who is interested to see where the clutch lets go

you can see the point it let go and how it was still managing to transfer some power, but you cant see how it revs when it lets go, wish i had a video cam with me when we did the dyno

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:35 pm

damn, that is what i call serious midrange punch!!

it's amazing how well the gearbox has held up together until this time with all the constant abuse by Danny hehehe...

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 11:23 pm

well i havent really been able to abuse it as the clutch lets go, i am sure once the clutch is sorted i will blow up the gearbox

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Sun Feb 01, 2004 9:32 am

finnally got my injectors and they have been tested to 940 cc at 90 psi, mmmm lots of fuel

couple more minor things to do to the fuel system, so there should be plenty of fuel for when we get the clutch sorted, just need to get this other motor built so we can push the boost right up. MMMMMMMMMMM cant wait ((( damn this clutch )))

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:09 am

hi everybody

i get a emails asking about the conversion, usually asking the same type of questions,

Could you post any questions here as it will save me answering the same question several times, and will benefit anyone else who is interested.

Cheers

ellusion · Post by **ellusion** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:54 pm

hey danny,
from what i read, this is the second galant engine in your car. What happened to the first one and why did you change? Couldn't you just upgrade the older one?

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:18 pm

the first one is being rebuilt with forged internals, because lost some parts of the piston while pushing it a bit to hard

Black_FTOGPX · Post by **Black_FTOGPX** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:12 pm

Danny,

From your experience without buying all the extra goodies like better turbo etc, What in the transplant needed to be changed and what was just done to increase performance.

For example was a custom manifold needed in order to make the transplant fit, or was that so you could just use the single turbo?

What Iâ€™m trying to ask is what would needed to be modified to make this fit if you just wanted a stock 6A13TT to fit.

Could you use the 6A13ttâ€™s gear box?

How much in parts would you think this would be?
How long do you think it would take?

Do you think not including any extras do you think this could be done for under $10,000?

RallyMad · Post by **RallyMad** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:25 pm

wasn't the Galant running the 6A13tt motor four wheel drive?
That's what I thought, probably wrong though. If it was, I doubt you'd be able to modify it to drive only the front wheels

salacious · Post by **salacious** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 8:15 pm

RallyMad wrote:wasn't the Galant running the 6A13tt motor four wheel drive?
That's what I thought, probably wrong though. If it was, I doubt you'd be able to modify it to drive only the front wheels

You're right the Galant was 4WD. I thought Danny had just used the original FTO gearbox.

Brian

RallyMad · Post by **RallyMad** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:45 pm

Yeah, I thought that Danny was running the stock FTO gearbox as well. I think Danny was thinking that the gearbox might break once he got the clutch issues fixed that are talked about earlier in this thread.
I think then that Black_FTOGPX was asking if the original gearbox from the 6A13tt might be better but due to it being four wheel drive, I believe it wouldn't be able to be used.

Black_FTOGPX · Post by **Black_FTOGPX** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:24 pm

Sorry guyâ€™s Iâ€™m not really up to speed with the AWD stuff. So is it the actual transmission which sends the power to all four wheels?
I thought the transmission in the gallant is the same as the ones in the FTO. (TIP 5 Speed)

Only asked that cause I have a 4 speed tip and if I was going to do this I donâ€™t think that would take it to well.

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Tue Jun 08, 2004 3:45 pm

some Galants came in 4wd transmission...

the 6A13 will bolt onto the FTO factory 5-spd manual, just like Danny's car...

paladin · Post by **paladin** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 4:56 pm

as i am putting a new engine in already, how much would i be looking at to do tis to my car - the extra cool stuff, just stock turbo's etc ? i already have a little s15 intercooler that coudl do me a while

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 5:02 pm

If you going to use T28BB as your setup, the S15 intercooler would be a perfect choice, as it was design for low boost for the T28BB in S15, which give u enough cooling & almost no lag.

paladin · Post by **paladin** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:16 pm

does sound good

i got no idea what the 6m13 engine and turbo set up is like! other then its from the 206kw jap/american galant
if it dosn cost that much more then a new engine (ie ecu and piping) i would be very keen!

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:50 pm

Black_FTOGPX wrote:Danny,

From your experience without buying all the extra goodies like better turbo etc, What in the transplant needed to be changed and what was just done to increase performance.

Well you do the 6A13 transplant, so you have a motor designed for a turbo and capable of a large increase performance over the 6A12, you could spend 10K turboing a 6A12 but unless you spend more money and crack it open and do the internals it will only run 7 Lb boost and on 7Lb boost if your lucky you might get 200+ Hp ATW so if you are going to spend a large amount of money, you want a large increase in performance.

Black_FTOGPX wrote:For example was a custom manifold needed in order to make the transplant fit, or was that so you could just use the single turbo?

To keep the 6A13 Twin turbo would require custom manifolds or you would have to bow the fire wall. It was a lot easier to fit a single turbo and made sence performance wise.

Black_FTOGPX wrote:What Iâ€™m trying to ask is what would needed to be modified to make this fit if you just wanted a stock 6A13TT to fit.

You would have to build new exaust manifolds, oil feeds and oil returns to the turbos, water feeds and water returns to the turbos. or modify the fire wall, and all new intercooler plumbing, new fuel pump and new exhaust. Rewiring the engine and new computer or 6A13TT computer would have to be wired in. I recomend going with a good aftermarket computer as this will cost more but will give you better control when tuning, and if you use the original computer you would then need fuel and boost controlers
( piggy back computer ) Better to get a new computer that does all that and much more.
You would be best to speak to the person who would do the conversion as they will look at it and have there own ideas about what is easiest and quickest, " time is money "

Black_FTOGPX wrote:Could you use the 6A13ttâ€™s gear box?

You could probably get it to fit, How much it would cost i dont know. Do you want to make it a 4WD or keep it a FWD. Why do you want to use the 6A13 Box the original FTO box will bolt on. I would keep it Auto and have the Auto strengthened as this would cost not much more then a decent twin plate clutch and flywheel.

Black_FTOGPX wrote:How much in parts would you think this would be?

This depends on what parts you use.

Black_FTOGPX wrote:How long do you think it would take?

How long is a piece of string ? Best to ask the person who would do it. And expect them to take longer.

Black_FTOGPX wrote:Do you think not including any extras do you think this could be done for under $10,000?

Again how long is a piece of string
This is too hard to answer as that depends on who is doing the job, and what parts you will use, and what quality you want.

If you use a Galant VR4 half cut and you do the Job your self in your own workshop. yes under 10k. If you pay some one to do it for you, I dont think so.