tip tronic random gear change????

curse · Post by **curse** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:18 pm

hey all
I have recently got my self a 94 model auto with tip, and every time i go down a hill it jumps gears every now and then like from 4TH to 2nd. Is this normal?

and ive noticed it stretches gears out as well when im not accelerating much either from 2nd to thrid. but also on flat road as well as hills. Is this normal.

Lastly does anyone know where i could find some of the spring clips that go inside the sunroof cover slide.

Post by **vipfto** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:22 pm

first WTTC

as for issue reset ECU mate (disconnect battery)
the Invecs gearbox actually learns how the driver drives car and changes accordingly, after a few days it will learn how you drive and then react to your driving style

oh and post up some pics mate

Albert · Post by **Albert** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:02 am

Mate i have a similar problem to you
its does to me aswell and other changes
when i drive the automatic gearbox is on 4 then suddenly the car kicks back to 3rd gear and then lights up both N and D on the 3rd gear and does not change anymore when i stop. it just stays on 3rd unless i switch off the car for a bit and goes back to normal. but its been doing it everyday and its annoying.
Has anyone else had this problem?
how do i fix this?
Thanks

Post by **I8A4RE** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:35 am

^^^^^^ Do what VIP just mentioned, then drive it

I have recently got my self a 94 model auto with tip, and every time i go down a hill it jumps gears every now and then like from 4TH to 2nd. Is this normal?

Absolutely that is the invecs system using engine breaking to slow you down, so your not rolling down the hill (eg more control)..

Hmm that reminds me of another thread we discussing earlier..... but we wont start that back up again lol

FTEvolution · Post by **FTEvolution** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:37 pm

I agree with the ferrari eater, but as for the gearbox taking a while to shift, it could be your torque converter.

It sounds like your tip box is "flaring"... it only gets worse, have it checked.

koolio1234 · Post by **koolio1234** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:20 pm

check the transmission fluids and make sure they are topped up...otherwise just reset the ecu as suggested.

Post by **I8A4RE** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:10 pm

You will be also amazed at what a good fluid change does

Post by **vipfto** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:48 am

I8A4RE wrote:You will be also amazed at what a good fluid change does

+1

Albert · Post by **Albert** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:07 am

Heloooo is anyone therrrrrre lolz.

I recall seeing something on the forum about 3rd gear being stuck and back to normal when you switch the car off and on again. the gears D and N are blinking at disame time. do i need to get my TIP fixed or its just ECU or something else.
i think its that bloke from Adelaide that had same problem but cant remember. HELP

Can anyone advise or point me to the right direction.... i wanna join the cruise but not confident it will make it on long travel....!!
So i need to FIX IT....plzzzzz
thanks
Its annoying

Post by **Bennoz** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:17 am

Albert wrote:Heloooo is anyone therrrrrre lolz.

I recall seeing something on the forum about 3rd gear being stuck and back to normal when you switch the car off and on again. the gears D and N are blinking at disame time. do i need to get my TIP fixed or its just ECU or something else.
i think its that bloke from Adelaide that had same problem but cant remember. HELP

Can anyone advise or point me to the right direction.... i wanna join the cruise but not confident it will make it on long travel....!!
So i need to FIX IT....plzzzzz
thanks
Its annoying

Check the tip box ECU codes:

http://www.ftoaustralia.com/modules.php ... ic&t=14667

Then come back to us.

Albert · Post by **Albert** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:38 am

okay now this bit im a NOOB lolz
what do i use to check the ECU?
ive never done it before
where do i buy one and how much roughly
thanks

Post by **Bennoz** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:41 am

Read the link in my above post very carefully. Everything you need is in there.

Albert · Post by **Albert** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:30 pm

okay Bennoz

okay ive got the error code
the orange engine light is flashing once per second constantly
the N is flashing wieird, flash sequence
first is a one lights N for 2 seconds ( may be counting quick )
second is same
a 3 or 4 second stop or nothing in between
then 3 flashes after that is a sequence of 1 second interval then stops for a bit and does it all over again

what does this mean? Limp back, i mean leap mode

thanks guys

Albert · Post by **Albert** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:29 pm

okay guyz
how do you get the exact error reading?
Ive been looking at other peepz error code
what do you need to buy to pull out error codes out of the FTO
ive tried the 1 pin and grounding but it only comes up as lights and going by Bennoz error code data sheet. But is there another way to do this a reader or something?

Post by **vipfto** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:55 pm

Albert wrote:okay Bennoz

okay ive got the error code
the orange engine light is flashing once per second constantly
the N is flashing wieird, flash sequence
first is a one lights N for 2 seconds ( may be counting quick )
second is same
a 3 or 4 second stop or nothing in between
then 3 flashes after that is a sequence of 1 second interval then stops for a bit and does it all over again

what does this mean? Limp back, i mean leap mode

thanks guys

by the way i think you have described flashing? it sounds as its error code 23.......
output shaft speed sensor

limp mode is when there is prob and trans effectively goes into a safe mode.
The N light will flash and car will be stuck in third gear, it will make a decent thud when shifting from D-R-P

Storm · Post by **Storm** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:34 pm

What vip says makes sense, if it is the output speed sensor get it replaced or at th every least cleaned.

2nd going down hill shows your tip ECU is working well, mine didn't do it until I soaked it then left it in the hot cupboard for a few days. Not actualy to be recommended

It also recognises my driving style in a few minutes, rather than days. If I start hooning it around it holds onto the gears for longer, as it should, but it keeps holding the gears, even when I drive into a town. It then takes five minutes or so to return to a semblance of normality.

Bill

Albert · Post by **Albert** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:34 pm

Thanks guys
by the way where can i buy this input and output sensors?
i want to change both,i have bought new O2 sensors aswell from ebay $60 thanks Simon

I think there is a DIY somewhere on how to change this right
is this also related to my speedometer going nuts as in hitting over 100km when i just sort of go hard on first gear . i wish my first gear did it but im realyy goin 40km damn!!
Thanks

Albert · Post by **Albert** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:29 pm

okay i got parts coming in from Camskill to replace both input and output sensor.
but first i tried cleaning it and it worked, but i do get a bit of a jig when i gears down sometimes.not often.
but its not going on Limp mode for now.
Reset ECU
But i have another problem my Speedometer is not working anymore what happened?
i just cleaned the sensors with WD 40. and my stepper motor.
what could be the culptrit, maybe i didnt put it all properly? im sure i did.
my speedo was going but already jumping to certain speeds, now it completly gooner
Anyone?
Thanks guys

Post by **vipfto** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:03 pm

either speed sensor unit or bad connection at dash

Post by **Bennoz** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:52 pm

Yeah speedo sensor is at the back of the box, you may have disturbed it pulling input / output sensors out & so on.