Exhaust - Your Thoughts

phantom · Post by **phantom** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:57 pm

Oliver89 wrote:I am in the need of the same thing! Real Quick.

Called Liverpool Exhuast Quoted me $ 800 Performace Exhaust Stainless Steel with Cat back.

Called Bankstown Muffler's quoted me $ 600 With Catback.

THOUGH! Bennoz or anyone What kind of Cat back should i get isnt better if i get a Sports Muffluer than a Canon. ?

Called other places there all RIP OFFS.

i went to pro fix in port adelaide there prices wernt bad they quoted glamorus and myself $450 3 inch stainless steel pipe muffler and 5 th 6 inch tips nice set ups they done other ftos in the past they recon that they can make the cars sound hot and increasing power.

phantom · Post by **phantom** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:01 pm

sorry the pipe wouldnt be stainless just the muffler and tip

for $ 450

phantom · Post by **phantom** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:05 pm

Bennoz wrote:Thats cheap! A bit too cheap maybe.... ask them if the bends will be done by a mandrel bender & not a machine bender. I'd also look at getting a better cat put in, you'll get better power from it

plese explain what the difference is between a mandrel bender and a machine bender and how it makes a difference. thanx

kid_dynamite · Post by **kid_dynamite** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:14 pm

Mandrel bent = pipe maintains the same diameter and volume around the bends (sorta like a bendy straw).

Machine (press) bent = take pipe and bend (usually by a machine as the name suggests, and resultant diameter around the corner usually decreases. Most factory systems are machine bent, as it is quick to do and saves money.

Oliver89 · Post by **Oliver89** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:53 pm

mr-charisma wrote:you should get a quote from Midas or somewhere... every time i've priced an exhaust system at RP Exhausts they've tried to rip me off as soon as they've heard its for an FTO...

Midas will do a good enough job of it & last time I called they quoted me around the $300 mark ... i think it was $250 cause I was supplying my own cannon..

Are you Stalking me. Because i am going there 2morrow.

I was thinking about midas for a quote see what they say.

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:42 am

Are you Stalking me. Because i am going there 2morrow. Wink

I was thinking about midas for a quote see what they say. Wink

Hehe, not you man, but I might stalk your car

I haven't actually been in to get quoted officially, its always such a hassle to get my car booked in anywhere cause of work. My new exhaust plans have been put on hold anyways... need the $$$$ to fix the suspension which is all broken... new bushes, struts, links, tyres, wheel align ... then to fix the engine & possibly tip box (though theres probably nothing wrong with it besides needing a bit of a tweek)

Delvance · Post by **Delvance** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:18 am

kid_dynamite wrote:
Delvance wrote:+1 on Best mufflers in carlton, the pricing won't be cheap but you can be sure it'll be top notch. Chris can also custom design exhausts if you want something specail/unobtainable.

Silly question but doesn't the ralliart catback terminate the same as a gpx i.e. two angle cut stainless pipes poking out the bumper at different lengths ?

+1 on sleeper
Nah it's a single tip outlet, as per pic.

I had Chris fit that up to a set of extractors, and it sounds great, whilst still being street legal. Not droney, complements the car well.

Thanks for the clarification Kid_Dynamite, looks good btw

Would love to hear that setup one day.

Oliver89 · Post by **Oliver89** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:16 am

Allright so far i have had a quote from Liverpool Exhaust for $500 For a Performance Exhaust with cat. ( Havent herd anything good about em )

Bankstown Mufflers going there today so i can get a quote & see there showroom for catbaks.

midas might pop in today if i got time.

Bankstown Muffler's said $600-650 But thats guesing over the phone could be more could be less. They'll let me know today.

Oliver89 · Post by **Oliver89** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:42 pm

Went Bansktown Muffler's I put my Car up on the Hoist and i have 2 Punctures in my Exahust On both DRUMS as well. Aint to severe or big.

Anyways Half of the exhaust and a TIP Sporst Performance with a Nice Canon Life time warrenty will be a total of $450

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:43 am

sublime19 wrote:6 inch cannon? mm.. say hello to loosing power cos its too big..

why?

10" tip does nothing make it 10" or all it matters at the tip.

A good hi-flo cat is gonna cost you 400 at least. Good muffler aboit 200-400. Good pipe and bends + fitting.

1k for a good setup.

500 for a crap one.

Oliver89 · Post by **Oliver89** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:30 am

500 for a crap one lol Come On man.

So that means I am getting sh*t all & Crap for $ 450...

Everyone loves to spend 1k but I am happy with the 450 Price. For what i am getting.

Delvance · Post by **Delvance** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:55 am

Oliver89 wrote:500 for a crap one lol Come On man.

So that means I am getting sh*t all & Crap for $ 450...

Everyone loves to spend 1k but I am happy with the 450 Price. For what i am getting.

Lol that's exactly what he means i'd daresay.
That's the difference between a good exhaust shop and setup vs something that's average. If all you want is a bit of sound then the $450 setup will be a bargain/perfect but if you're interested in power more, there's no escaping the $1k setup unless you have connections to source cheap labour/parts etc.

But $450 for a catback is a very good price, nice.

While we're on exhausts, anyone know if the factory piping is any decent ? If it is, i might do my setup bit at a time

Post by **Bennoz** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:12 am

Delvance wrote:While we're on exhausts, anyone know if the factory piping is any decent ? If it is, i might do my setup bit at a time

2.25" machine bent mild steel... you do the math

The only factory part of the exhaust that is supposedly ok is the cast headers. Although much better replaced by extractors, if you're not going full on with it they will be ok. The pipe that joins the headers & goes into the cat is proven rubbish - poorly (and cheaply) designed bit of pipe with a very poor gas pulse merge point, the cat is crap & resonator is a baffle type (rubbish) and the muffler aint much better.

Going the whole hog on the pipes will give you anywhere up to 15kws. Best gain on an FTO besides the intake.

Delvance · Post by **Delvance** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:18 am

Bennoz wrote: 2.25" machine bent mild steel... you do the math

eewww.

Cheers Bennoz, i'll get the whole system done after my holidays then. I can see it now...boarding the plane from Tokyo to Syd, carrying a massive exhaust lol.

Post by **Bennoz** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:21 am

Nothin' wrong with that

I got off the plane from the UK with a limo diff in my hand luggage

Delvance · Post by **Delvance** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:28 am

Bennoz wrote:Nothin' wrong with that I got off the plane from the UK with a limo diff in my hand luggage

hahah, what was in your checked luggage ?? Engine blocks and stuffs lol.

Limo diff...must be a long story lol.

kid_dynamite · Post by **kid_dynamite** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:54 am

Delvance wrote:
eewww.

Cheers Bennoz, i'll get the whole system done after my holidays then. I can see it now...boarding the plane from Tokyo to Syd, carrying a massive exhaust lol.

Tokyo...Japan trip?

/sends shopping list to Delvance

Oliver89 · Post by **Oliver89** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:29 pm

mmm For Canon catbak & 2.5 Piping till about Half way. Total Cost $450

How much Kw's Will i Gain from this ? ?

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:02 pm

pretty much nothing!! if your going for it, gotta go for everything not just the exhaust, its just there for the noise on its own

Oliver89 · Post by **Oliver89** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:34 pm

mmm i got told 5-10% increase of power.

I aint going for full potential Just Need replacing you no. But while i'm add it i might as well add abit of Look and Detail.