modifying your tiptronic gearbox

Post by **I8A4RE** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:04 am

hobbsie have to disagree man, with the

a manual gives you much more control of the car and stuff, allows you to get a better launch and control your handling etc

just like bennoz said most dragsters now use tip equvilent boxes. the problem is there is less power loss with fto manuals than fto tips (5kw apparently). but i have driven a lot of the same type of cars (used to work for nissan) and u can have 2 exactly the same cars (body engine gearbox etc even same colour not that makes a sh*t of a difference) and they will perform completely different

Liquidity · Post by **Liquidity** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:14 am

Why are dragsters even coming into this discussion? An fto will be raped from every direction in a straight line by 9/10 "performance orientated" cars. And you cant compare the fto's tip to a top drag cars two or three speed transmission.

Post by **I8A4RE** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:15 am

we arent comparing them! read again and if u need more help spelling it out for u let us know ha ha

Storm · Post by **Storm** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:31 pm

We have had the same discussion recently on the FTOOC. Try looking here, http://www.ftooc.org/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... ed+tip+ecu for some of the info we found.

It includes links to an American tranny specialist who can do uprated ECUs for the tip box.

Arashi

bartman · Post by **bartman** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:22 pm

hey simon i have a mivec tip, challenge accepted

a nice straight out the back of coom wtrs, near you i think

Post by **I8A4RE** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:03 pm

sounds good bro im there name time and place (after work though)

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:50 pm

Hobbsie wrote:a manual gives you much more control of the car and stuff, allows you to get a better launch and control your handling etc. tip can do some of the things manual does but it doesnt compare for spirited driving unless you have a stall converter and stuff.

yeah launch is much better...IMO its tghe only reason I would want a manual FTO...TIP just doesn't cut it on launch...

but for normal driving...its kicks arse in traffic etc. why are we even talking about this???

FTEvolution · Post by **FTEvolution** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:09 am

Hobbsie wrote:a manual gives you much more control of the car and stuff, allows you to get a better launch and control your handling etc. tip can do some of the things manual does but it doesnt compare for spirited driving unless you have a stall converter and stuff.

I strongly disagree with the bolded statement. I can consistently launch my car without problems with the Tip box. Loading the torque converter (approx 2500 rpm, has the engine just coming onto boost) and releasing the brakes will have me launching as quickly as I possibly can. My car would be an absolute dog with a manual gearbox and there is no way I could launch the way I do now.

Consistency is the key, I would take consistent launches over a fluked clutch dumping and missed gear changes any day.

Hey, opinions, it's what a forum is for.[/b]

Post by **I8A4RE** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:35 pm

so when is this challenge takin place bartman

mmmmmmm.........all talk eh? lol

bartman · Post by **bartman** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:04 am

simon,
hows this weekend sound, u live out behind coomera waters don't u?

Post by **BorepYano** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:37 am

take a video of it

Post by **I8A4RE** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:47 am

yeah man sounds good. i dont work week ends so either day is fine for me

bartman · Post by **bartman** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:48 pm

I8AFRE PM sent

FtoSam · Post by **FtoSam** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:31 pm

I own a MIVEC Manual.. perhaps another challenger?

Post by **I8A4RE** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:32 pm

yeah man im not affraid of losing so ill take on anybody. i just love going fast and watching other people going fast.

bartman · Post by **bartman** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:17 pm

yeah so when are we doing this

i'm keen samson i'd be interested to see how much quicker the manual actually is than the tip

FtoSam · Post by **FtoSam** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:56 pm

okay boys... list your mods.. we should take into account most things we can
mine are:
engine
-K&N Filter
-2.5inch exhaust + high flow cat
thats it

As far as extra weigh though

- 100Kg of Sound Deadner in doors, floor, sides, roof, boot
- 18" Rims
- 100Kg subs + Box (will be taking this out for a few weeks though)
- 40Kg Battery (swapping back to regular battery next week)
thats it... so i'd presume my little mods on my engine would cancel out my extra weight.. i think...
Simon, all that extra paint (especially under the bonnet

) will be weighing you down matey! )

FtoSam · Post by **FtoSam** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:57 pm

besides, you guys have to come on the track day!
So we can see how we go round a track too!
Wheres a good place for a run?

Post by **I8A4RE** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:51 pm

Well i done no mods apart from suspension so that aint gonna help me in a straight line

bartman · Post by **bartman** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:05 pm

mods:
apexi air filter
2.5" exhaust cat back

i think its fair to say that you will win samson, but by how much is what i wanna know.

simon check your messages dude