Need RIM info from FTO Gurus

Tbone · Post by **Tbone** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:11 am

Hi all, its been a while! I have a few questions about new rims for an FTO if you don't mind taking some time out to have read;

1. What is the largest LEGAL width and diameter of rims on the FTO (GPX)? I heard 18" and 7". In Victoria isn't it something like 2" in width larger than factory rims are legal? The rims I'm looking at are 18x7.5 - this a problem?

2. What is the REALISTIC RECOMMENDED size on an FTO? I got big rims on my Lancer and they fit, but they scrape the guards bad when turning sharp and quick - annoying! From experience, what do you guys think is a good size rim and tyre that will look nice, but still give a comfortable ride. (I've got some tight suspension so I don't really need to feel any more bumps in the road).

3. Any recommended brand of tyres? I've tried a few, and friends suggest different types, just interested to see what people think of the different brands in the cost vs. grip vs. life weigh up.

4. What is the offset of the wheels (insert technical term here)? I'm guessing there is no VE-type special offset to the FTO that will limit my range.

5. I'm looking out for some new rims for my GPX. I love the RS GT shadows. Check out: http://www.ozzytyres.com.au/ and look at the shadow RS GT in the Race section.
What do you guys think? I've got a silver FTO with the full VS kit. I'm looking for something stylish, not too bling (no chrome) that will fit the car without being overboard (I'm not Ludacris or Master P.- so no 22" full gold plate either).

I hope some of you FTO grand daddies will give some valuable advice to this humble povo apprentice newbie.
Thanks, T.

Post by **BorepYano** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:41 am

full VS kit.. yukkie
sry just personal preference, too many curves, no offence meant

um i'm sure there's a sticky about rim sizes, but i cant find it now lol
although the sizes it says on there are the safe ones i'm pretty sure... i think u can push it a little.

sry i'm not much help, dont know about vic, but here (qld) just have to make sure it doesnt stick out, and obviously it doesnt rub on anything.

i'm pretty sure 18 x 7s should be fine, but u'll need something like... 225,35s or maybe 235 35s.

dw, someone much more useful than me should reply.

cheers

i stand corrected on the sticky part, its not a sticky but i found it, http://www.ftoaustralia.com/modules.php ... age&pid=27

Post by **I8A4RE** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:22 pm

boring i dont think he asked what u thought of his body kit just tellin u so u could imagine what rims would go well with it. (veilside sucks) lol

man i dont like those rims to dark for a silver fto get some the same colour or a shade lighter (you dont need to go chrome).
id be going for something like the 068's on the same page u mentioned i wouldnt go any bigger than 18's (depends on how low your car is) and Yokohamas r the best tire i have ever used (grip-wear ratio wise) stay away from kuhmo's and im not a big fan of bridgestone but i aint used any of there top of the shelf sh*t

AERODYNAMIST · Post by **AERODYNAMIST** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:27 pm

i think for the front u can fit 18" 7.5"

rear 18" 8"

correct me if i am wrong guys.........

Post by **BorepYano** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:25 pm

225 35s on the front (might get away with 235 35s)
245 35s on the back (thats reallt pushing it though)

depends on offset of the rims

they should be legal...

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:26 pm

You might get away with 7.5 at the front, as it will rub lightly for sure, but 8 at the back is impossible, as the wheel will touch the suspension. (unless you going to put illegal spacer)

225 is the largest i would go too.

Post by **BorepYano** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:57 pm

just on that note, what about 17" X 8"s, they would rub as the suspension as well?

i'm asking cos i almost bought some 17X8 evo 6 rims, long story short, it fell through, but now i would really like them, just wanted to know if it'll fit

thanx

SG · Post by SG » Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:29 pm

what offset are evos rims?

i've heard of people with 235s on as the widest but i dont know what wheel/offset settings they had. you could probly go a size smaller in profile if they rub, and your speedo will just be out

i sized up on a offset calculator that my car would need a +30 offset to run 235s instead of +35. 235s on a +30 offset, (from stock 205mm) would give you like 2cm outward more and 1cm inward more. which shouldnt touch the suspension but would proly create more rub on the outside edge on full lock

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:00 pm

The legal limit is 17" (since u can legally only go up 1 inch) but you won't have a problems with 18's as long as your car isn't too low.

I got 18x7.5 with 215/35.. I should have gone 225/35 but by going 215, my speedo is only off by 0.6Kms.. if I had gone with the 225s then I would be off by about 1.9Kms or so.

Just make sure you find out about your speedo before u buy your rims and tyres.. some of them will put you off by like 8kms.. so u might be doing 68kmph but to you it looks like your doing 60.. just be careful you do your research and find out which size your going and which size tyres u want for your speedo before you actually go buy it.

Realistically, go for 18s, 19 will scrub and imo will look too big for the fto, but for the most part it'll scrub. Plus if a cop is in a bad mood, he'll defect you for the 19" but the 18" he most likely won't be able to tell (as long as your tyres aren't too big)

so 18" with 215/35 (or 225/35 for a smoother ride puts off speedo by 1.9Kms) won't be too bad.

Also, when I bought mine, I paid $100 extra each tyre and went to Kumho tyres with a AAA tread rating, just don't buy nankang ones.. cos the good nankangs will cost u a shitload and they wont give them to u.

Post by **BorepYano** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:11 pm

i think the evo 6 wheels have a +40 offset, but dont quote me on it, it was about 3months ago when i was looking at a set.

remember when your speedo is out, its out by a percentage not just a set km.

u can work it out though.

rim diametre in mm (i.e. 16" would be 406.4mm) / 2 + tyre width / 100 X tyre profile (i.e. 215 50s would be 215/100X50=107.5) this will give you the radius of your wheel, now all you have to do is work out the circumference of your wheel for those of us that haven't been at school for a while, the equation is

rÂ². (

=3.1416)

circumference of the new wheel - circumference of stock wheel

u can find out the circumference at the bottom of this page: http://www.myfto.co.uk/fto_performance.htm

if the answer is stupidly close to or is 0, then u r speedo wont be out (not enough to worry about anyway, u might end up doing 100.5km while your speedo says 100)

if the answer is negative then your going slower than your speedo (i.e. doing 90 while speedo says 100)

if the answer is possitive then your going faster than your speedo (i.e. doing 110 while speedo says 100)

to work out how much u r out:

(circumference of new wheel - circumference of stock wheel) / circumference of stock wheel X 100 = the percentage u r out by.

u can also work out what rim size/tyre profile/tyre width u need if u know the other 2 with some grade 10 algibra.

just for a post note: there's a little bit of room for error, taking in consideration of the fact that depending on how much u inflate your tyres and different tyres etc.. but thats jack all and i cant be assed to work out the equation to work that in.

Post by **BorepYano** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:12 pm

sry that post was so long

Tbone · Post by **Tbone** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:08 pm

Thanks for the imput guys. That is some hard core maths there BorepYano - I haven't done maths like that since Year 12. I'm struggling to get my untrained brain around that at the moment.
Is it possible to adjust your speedo profesionally? Going up in wheel size would cause the speedo to underestimate the real speed wouldn't it? (i.e. 100 in regular may equal 95 with larger rims?)

Have any of you got picks of your fto side on you can post with the 18s, just so I can check out how big they actually look; especially if you have a silver FTO
Cheers, T.

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:47 am

Tbone wrote: That is some hard core maths there BorepYano

man don't listen to that noob, there's a rim and tyre size calculator.. why do things the hard way?

http://www.rochfordtyres.co.uk/tyrecalc.asp

Post by **BorepYano** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:32 am

what i said was exactly what the calculators did. i guess i could've found the calculator or even coded a similar form, but i dont have all day at work to browse the net

nuh , JK, good job sublime, the calculator is a whole lot better than my 500word essay.

although in my defence:
the calculators didnt tell you how far your new rims would be out by.

although hardly justifies the length still lol

Post by **Bennoz** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:15 am

Tbone wrote:Hi all, its been a while! I have a few questions about new rims for an FTO if you don't mind taking some time out to have read;

1. What is the largest LEGAL width and diameter of rims on the FTO (GPX)? I heard 18" and 7". In Victoria isn't it something like 2" in width larger than factory rims are legal? The rims I'm looking at are 18x7.5 - this a problem?

Legal is 1" bigger than standard. Stock is 16" therefore legal biggest is 17"

Tbone wrote:2. What is the REALISTIC RECOMMENDED size on an FTO? I got big rims on my Lancer and they fit, but they scrape the guards bad when turning sharp and quick - annoying! From experience, what do you guys think is a good size rim and tyre that will look nice, but still give a comfortable ride. (I've got some tight suspension so I don't really need to feel any more bumps in the road).

17" x 7.5 will give you no issues at all with a 35-38 offset.

I run 18" x 8 with a 40 offest and it gave me all sorts of rubbing. Had to make a number of hub / suspension mods to make them useable. Still get light rubbing on full lock, but nothing too bad.

Tbone wrote:3. Any recommended brand of tyres? I've tried a few, and friends suggest different types, just interested to see what people think of the different brands in the cost vs. grip vs. life weigh up.

You usually get what you pay for. Suggest doing a search on here

Tbone wrote:4. What is the offset of the wheels (insert technical term here)? I'm guessing there is no VE-type special offset to the FTO that will limit my range.

As mentioned above 35-38 is best for FTO's

Tbone wrote:I hope some of you FTO grand daddies will give some valuable advice to this humble povo apprentice newbie.
Thanks, T.

LOL

Post by **BorepYano** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:22 am

one really quick question:

when u said legal is 1" larger than stock, is that a NSW thing or is it a general thing and i've just been living under a rock?

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:32 pm

BorepYano wrote:what i said was exactly what the calculators did. i guess i could've found the calculator or even coded a similar form, but i dont have all day at work to browse the net

nuh , JK, good job sublime, the calculator is a whole lot better than my 500word essay.

although in my defence:
the calculators didnt tell you how far your new rims would be out by.
although hardly justifies the length still lol

lol i didnt browse the internet, i made a post when i was buying rims and somebody was kind enough to post that link for me so i jsut copy pasted it in here

but it tells of the important things u need to know, cos the people at the shop will fit it right for u.. you just need to know what to get to not make it scrub + speedo shouldn't be too far off

and Borep, good work with the maths, i just couldnt be fcuked figuring it out lol.. too lazy

Post by **Bennoz** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:08 pm

BorepYano wrote:one really quick question:

when u said legal is 1" larger than stock, is that a NSW thing or is it a general thing and i've just been living under a rock?

Its common to NSW & VIC. Dunno about QLDers thou...

It also may be legal by gov standards, but it may not be viable by insurance standards. Gotta be very careful there, you prang on 18's insurance may not cover you.

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:21 am

I drove some FTO's with bigger wheels when I was buying my car & they look nice, but they scraped the guards massivelyand made the worst sound when turning hard, not to mention tyre wear .. I'm not sure whether it was because they had the size tyres on, or to do with the cars being lowered or not .. but I took the safe road & got 17"s when I upgraded my wheels

I'm not really a big fan of the chunky shiny chrome "bling" wheels ... geez i can't even believe i just wrote that word

My wheels are the Konig - unknown's 17/7's

I really like how they look on my FTO (Red)

There's a similar looking wheel around called 'Medusa'

All personal preference though, as long as you like them it doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks, as for sizing - if you're keen on going for larger rims try and make sure that they're not going to cause too much problems for the handling/suspension and turning all that[/img]

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