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hello guys.. here's some interesting figures which i noticed about when reading RACV royal auto magazine.

there's a comparison between a toyota camry and hyundai sonata, both being a 4-cyl 2.4L engine car with very similar exterior and interior features...

what draws my attention is as below:

hyundai sonata / toyota camry
engine : 2359cc / 2362cc
engine type : both 4cyl DOHC &WT
max power : 118.5kW @ 5800 / 117kW@5700
max torque : 219Nm@4250 / 218Nm@4000
kerb mass : 1478kg / 1500kg
tyres : both 215/60 R16
0-60 : 4.9 / 4.6
0-80 : 7.8 / 7.2
0-100 : 11.3 / 10.6
50-80 : 4.7 / 4.6
60-100 : 7.1 / 7.0
0-400m : 17.9 / 17.5


so what's special in these figures? well i find it interesting that when compare with kerb mass, hyundai is lighter than camry. compare with power and torque, hyundai is little bit more than camry. however when compare with performance, camry appears to be faster...

hmmm, so... as a conclusion, what's the significant of a dyno result? as a heavier car with a lower power and lower torque can actually go faster than a lighter car with a higher power and higher torque? and also since they're very similar in engine capacity and also they are using the same tyre size...

any comment on this??

by the way... i am no longer a "newbie" lol

Have you check their gear ratio?

Ohh and most of us, apart from the UBER CREW, don't judge a newbie by the little title/posts count at the avatar section, we judge by their questions and answers in posts.

gear ratio is not stated there...

oh, yeah... its written here hyundai sonata having 4spd auto and camry having 5sp auto...

cool~~ now i know that apart from the weight and power and torque, gear ratio is an important factor...

Now it would be interesting to see the price tag between both of those cars just judging by their respective brands. You gotta price on those? Actually are they even the same year?

price range for hyundai sonata is $25,900- $34,990 (list price is $27,490)
price range for toyota camry is $28,000- $39,990 (list price is $29,500)

and yup they're all the same year...


toyota camry front


toyota camry rear


hyundai sonata front


hyundai sonata rear

The Camry looks similar to the IS250, since they are both by design by the same company, but the Sonata looks like a rip off version of Honda Accord and Euro Accord combine.

If i have to choose one (thats a big if), i take the Camry any day, at least the resell value won't drop on its ass like the Sonata.

true, and the much cheaper maintainance fees as well..

the parts for hyundai is like 2-3 times as toyota ones...

by the way, not only the hyundai looks like copying a honda euro, but i find that toyota camry looks a bit like mazda 6 as well... dont you think so? first look at it, without looking at the logo?

Hmmmm.....sort of, but not really.

id take the camry the same reason kev would, toyotas are a lot more reliable as well, had an excel as a first car... never hyundai again!

but the sonata doesnt look that bad

Stuff it i'll take the mazda 6

i think the new sonatas a rip of multiple cars personally...

honda accord, honda accord euro, and even the subaru liberty (look at headlights).

but woteva tickles your fancy

hahaha mazda 6 mps... 194kW awd

Mazda6 MPS is way too heavy. Worst, the RAW figure is almost the same as an N/A Commodore SV6, as a turbo AWD, its very disappointed.

Mazda6 MPS

195kw/380Nm
1693kg
8.63kg/kw
0-100 6.5
0-400 14.3

Holden Commodore SV6

190kw/340Nm
1592kg
8.38kg/kw
0-100 6.95
0-400 15.3

didnt think it weighed that much