FTO vs SUPRA

ellusion · Post by **ellusion** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:17 am

Can an FTO beat a SUPRA NON-turbo???
Looking at the power to weight ratios, the fto has an advantage in being much lighter....

I would hope that we could beat a supra. Can anyone give some more info on this?? What other factors could make the FTO lose?

XXXFTO · Post by **XXXFTO** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 10:14 am

I dont think fto's can, i'm sure a n/a supra is well below 7.5 to 100km's. They are quick cars

Post by **smorison** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:07 pm

we've raced Supra's and FTO's before and the FTO's won.

KillaFlop · Post by **KillaFlop** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:14 pm

my mates N15 SSS pretty much snapped a supra the other day... was strange sight as we were pulling away gracefully

odd though coz i've been in one and its got some nice pulling power...
couldve been the crap driver though

then again, SR20s are pretty tuff...

ellusion · Post by **ellusion** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 4:05 pm

smorison, when was this that you raced supras and ftos?
I'm assuming there was more than one race?

RallyMad · Post by **RallyMad** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:19 pm

Yeah supra's are relatively heavy aren't they? I know a mate's S13 turbo can beat a clean twin turbo supra in the trafic light duel. The light weight of the silvia helped him get the launch. By the same point I think the supra would have reeled him in over say a quartermile. Speaking of the SR20 as well just thought I'd share that this mates S13 dipped into the 12's over the weekend with a 12.9 at 106m/h. Considering the car has only had a few grand spent on it I was well chuffed for our local imports.

Post by **smorison** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:25 pm

when we have our late night cruises (which we probably need to start up again) we tend to do runs ... sometimes we've had supra's there... Tommy's old yellow one (seen in many cruise pictures) and Andre's black one (seen in some cruise pictures)...

ellusion · Post by **ellusion** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:25 am

FTO's are onli 1150 kg compared to supras which are 1480 kg!!

They are damn heavy with onli a bit more power.

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:24 am

NA Supras are surprisingly quick, particularly if breathing mods have been done on it. i've ran very close against an NA Supra in stock form, but got chopped by another NA Supra with exhaust, filter and ECU.

i guess it also depends largely on how well both drivers can launch their car... don't forget that Supras are FR/RWD cars, hence they get better traction over the driving wheels during launch plus they've got bags of linear torque on tap (due to their 3.0l capacity). however i've heard on other forums that auto Supras are marginally quicker due to taller gearing, but I am yet to be convinced... at the end of the day, the bullshit stops when the right foot drops.

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:13 am

given both are stock, both with equally talented drivers, the supra will win.

G1 · Post by G1 » Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:49 pm

wasnt that yellow supra NA, and andre's FTO was turbo'ed?

lal · Post by **lal** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:09 pm

how about FTO vs 300ZX??? my friend has one, haven't given him a go yet (fully stock 300ZX).. i'm sure ppl has given them a go... what was the result??

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lal · Post by **lal** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:18 pm

how about FTO vs 300ZX??? my friend has one, haven't given him a go yet (fully stock 300ZX).. i'm sure ppl has given them a go... what was the result??

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GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:46 pm

lal wrote:how about FTO vs 300ZX??? my friend has one, haven't given him a go yet (fully stock 300ZX).. i'm sure ppl has given them a go... what was the result?? or

i've ran against an NA 300ZX some time ago (standing start) and i beat him by about half a car length by the end of 3rd... in NA trim they're slow-as (due to their weight) but in TT form they'll munch the FTO quite easily though' me thinks

jetlee · Post by **jetlee** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:09 pm

Yeah, i think a FTO will rip a NA 300zx but i still reckon the NA Supra will beat a FTO (both manual, both stock, with same driver doing a the run)
Thats impressive times by the falcon XT too

Redboost · Post by **Redboost** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:18 pm

I have beaten an NA Supra - but to be honest I think it was because he was an inexperienced driver (still on red Ps), the car was stock as (even factory rims) and he had a passenger in the car as well. I got a better take off but he caught up pretty good then eventually I pulled away. But it was pretty close, considering his experience.

FTO-NX · Post by **FTO-NX** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:38 pm

my sister got a NA Supra(auto) and experience of driving it..its pretty fast the car can pull you over because juz one step on the accelerator the revs jumps to 5000 revs we tried to raced ones obvously i lose..i ran auto gr with exhaust and k&n pod..

what a about FTO vs SSS??
i raced one of my freinds SSS he rans exhaust,pod with CAI,extractors(manual)
hehe i lose but not that much..

jetlee · Post by **jetlee** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:50 pm

FTO-NX, what are the specs on a SSS
i know they are decent car but they'd have nothing on 130 odd kw GR (specially with your mods), i would have thought

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:02 pm

jetlee wrote:FTO-NX, what are the specs on a SSS
i know they are decent car but they'd have nothing on 130 odd kw GR (specially with your mods), i would have thought

i believe the SSS uses a non-turbo version of the SR20 (shared by the NX coupe) which makes about 105-110kw stock i think...

not so sure about torque figures either, but i don't suppose they'll be any more than 140-160NM.

the latest variants of the SSS in Japan uses variable timing and makes about the same HP as the MIVEC V6 though'!