Evo engines

Asura- · Post by **Asura-** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:06 pm

im jst curious is it possible in anyway to fit a evo engine in a fto?
not planning to do it.. jst curious =]

thanks

afterburner · Post by **afterburner** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:17 pm

Yes. But it would require a not insubstantial amount of time and money...

You would also need an Evo 4 onwards engine as they are around the correct way.

Asura- · Post by **Asura-** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:27 pm

for instance if someone had the money and did it you rkn it make a big difference in performance?

afterburner · Post by **afterburner** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:33 pm

Hell yes. Assuming you have a Mivec FTO, you are replacing a 147kw 200Nm engine with an engine (depending on what model Evo it comes out of) conservatively rated at 206kw and 350Nm. And that's assuming you leave it standard, which hardly anyone does.

But you'd have extreme traction issues and you'd be shredding front tyres left right and centre. You'd also need some sort of aftermarket engine management...

Asura- · Post by **Asura-** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:40 pm

lol dame dat will b a pretty site 2 see.. something different =]
but all that money might as well jst buy a bloody evo haha.
thanks for the info cheers

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:38 pm

There are few people had done it already, do remember though, once you change the engine, you also change the characteristic of the car too, another word, it might be fast at straight, but you will have lots of torque steer during corning at twisty.

FTOluv · Post by **FTOluv** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:45 pm

There are few people had done it already, do remember though, once you change the engine, you also change the characteristic of the car too, another word, it might be fast at straight, but you will have lots of torque steer during corning at twisty.

Easy Kev, give it the EVO 4 drivertrain!

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:02 pm

ahhhhh yeah thanks for telling everyone about my new project

FTOluv · Post by **FTOluv** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:55 pm

dont tell me yr serious, u didnt tell me about it before!

Luca · Post by **Luca** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:21 pm

Would certainly be a good thread to start up if you did start work on it ... like the Dannyboyau/Jeff thread.

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:51 pm

FTOluv Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:55 pm Post subject:

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dont tell me yr serious, u didnt tell me about it before!

Hmmm who the hell did i told then if its not either you or mikey then.

Its still in the early stage, got a damage FTO & EVO for it already, & need another damage FTO. And happen theres another guy selling one at the car for sales section

Man by the time i finish i think i would of spend enough money for a EVOIX. But the look of a FTO with the speed/handling of a EVO.....hmmmm hope it works.

FTOluv · Post by **FTOluv** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:24 pm

mate, wouldnt it better getting the Turtle with the APS kit??

and why would u need 2 FTOs anyway??

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:31 pm

Because i can do this secretly hehehee without my missy notice ahahhahha

how on earth i'm going to explain a turtle in the carpark?

I'm not going to start chopping my FTO, so one for playing with the floor plan & the other for playing the chassis. & once everything is fine, it will transfer to my current FTO

If it doesn't work then i'm going to start chopping the Bora ahahahahaha

Post by **Supplanter** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:03 am

Something I wanted to do one day, both that, and make a 2.5L MIVEC hybrid engine FTO

Someone is thing of 4WD'ing his FTO in the UK too

http://www.ftooc.org/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:30 am

Thanks James thats an interesting read, but yeah what happen to the posts between Jan & april???

Or they just drop the balls

spetz · Post by **spetz** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:21 pm

Why do people keep referring to torque steer through corners?

Isn't this easily solved by back off the throttle a bit?

Like before with my 1.8 i could floor it through corners and not understeer too much, now with the MIVEC if I floor it I just understeer so the solution is being more carefull with the throttle.

But to be honest I still do believe an evo engine in a FWD is too much. Just get the 2.5L hybrid from RPW... and let me know how it goes as I am considering it

jester · Post by **jester** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:08 pm

http://www.prestigemotorsport.co.uk/exa ... ples3.html

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:52 pm

spetz wrote:Why do people keep referring to torque steer through corners?

Isn't this easily solved by back off the throttle a bit?

Come to Melb & we show you. Just make sure you bring an extra under wear & pants when you come for a ride heehehee

spetz · Post by **spetz** » Sun May 01, 2005 1:04 am

hahahaha!
I wont need underwear...

You get torquesteer? You are non turbo though????

Dr_Jones · Post by **Dr_Jones** » Sun May 01, 2005 8:58 am

Borrowed from Wikipedia.

Torque steer can be a problem on high-performance front wheel drive cars. This is the name given to the tendency for some front wheel drive cars to pull to the left or right under hard acceleration. It is a result of the offset between the point about which the wheel steers (which falls at a point which is aligned with the points at which the wheel is connected to the steering mechanisms) and the centroid of its contact patch. The tractive force acts through the centroid of the contact patch, and the offset of the steering point means that a turning moment about the axis of steering is generated. In an ideal situation, the left and right wheels would generate equal and opposite moments, cancelling each other out, however in reality this is less likely to happen. Torque Steer is often incorrectly attributed to differing rates of twist along the lengths of unequal front drive shafts.

Best way to see it, is go somewhere quite and floor your car and watch what happens to the steering wheel. Be careful though.