fog light switch not turning off the fog lights

Got a problem with your FTO? ask about it here

Moderators: IMC, Club Staff

G1
Mechanic
Posts: 728
jedwabna poszewka promocja
Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:00 pm
Location: VW Bora V6 4Motion
Contact:

fog light switch not turning off the fog lights

Post by G1 »

hi guys,

ive got this problem recently where the fog light switch will turn on and off the dash lights fine, but it does not turn off the fog lights. So i am having to drive with the fog light fuse out so that my battery does not drain.

does anyone else have a similar experience?

also this might just be coincidence, but the fig light switch was a bit sticky (not coming out from the on position cleanly) for a while... but now since the fog light problem surfaced, the switch is not sticky anymore.

appreciate any suggestions
Disrespect is easy. Respect is the difficult road to take.
ruchi
Oldtimer
Posts: 1845
Joined: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:00 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by ruchi »

sounds like a relay is sticking
MIVEC is My Friend :D
G1
Mechanic
Posts: 728
Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:00 pm
Location: VW Bora V6 4Motion
Contact:

Post by G1 »

so just a matter of pulling apart the dash and getting behind the switch and unstick what ever is stuck?
Disrespect is easy. Respect is the difficult road to take.
User avatar
smorison
The Godfather
Posts: 2461
Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:00 pm
Location: In the TRUCK!!!
Contact:

Post by smorison »

chances are you will find that the relay is burnt out and has to be replaced (its the entire switch)...

the foglight switch is used by Galants and i think lancers now as well so its not that expensive to replace (i've been through 3 of these)
User avatar
GWIDO
Apprentice
Posts: 55
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 5:00 pm

switch

Post by GWIDO »

the switch itself sounds dodgy. might need some crc to free it up inside.
User avatar
efteoh
Grease Monkey
Posts: 224
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2004 6:00 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by efteoh »

how much did the switch cost? ive been too scared to use my fogs as i know i'll burn it our soon, and i couldnt be stuffed wiring a 30A relay to it! :D
G1
Mechanic
Posts: 728
Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:00 pm
Location: VW Bora V6 4Motion
Contact:

Post by G1 »

smorison wrote:chances are you will find that the relay is burnt out and has to be replaced (its the entire switch)...

the foglight switch is used by Galants and i think lancers now as well so its not that expensive to replace (i've been through 3 of these)
if it was burnt out, would the foggies stay permanently on?
Disrespect is easy. Respect is the difficult road to take.
User avatar
smorison
The Godfather
Posts: 2461
Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:00 pm
Location: In the TRUCK!!!
Contact:

Post by smorison »

G1 wrote:
smorison wrote:chances are you will find that the relay is burnt out and has to be replaced (its the entire switch)...

the foglight switch is used by Galants and i think lancers now as well so its not that expensive to replace (i've been through 3 of these)
if it was burnt out, would the foggies stay permanently on?
yeah they do... i had that happen a few times... what actually happens is it gets so hot it melts the plastic and disrupts the path of the ballbearings in the switch...

i think they are like 30-40... i used to get mine from japan until i found out they were the same price here.
G1
Mechanic
Posts: 728
Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:00 pm
Location: VW Bora V6 4Motion
Contact:

Post by G1 »

you mean like NS mits, or somewhere like just jap?
Disrespect is easy. Respect is the difficult road to take.
User avatar
Beme007
Apprentice
Posts: 67
Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2004 6:00 pm
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Contact:

Post by Beme007 »

hmm. same happen to me .
I had been driving with frog light on for 1 year already .
still dont want to fix it .
G1
Mechanic
Posts: 728
Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:00 pm
Location: VW Bora V6 4Motion
Contact:

Post by G1 »

no mine stays on even when the key is out, do you disconnect/reconnect the fuse everytime? your battery will run flat otherwise...
Disrespect is easy. Respect is the difficult road to take.
User avatar
smorison
The Godfather
Posts: 2461
Joined: Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:00 pm
Location: In the TRUCK!!!
Contact:

Post by smorison »

G1 wrote:no mine stays on even when the key is out, do you disconnect/reconnect the fuse everytime? your battery will run flat otherwise...
undo the two screens at the top of your instrument cluster... pull out the plastic dash surround and disconnect the plug from the switch :)
thecook
Mechanic
Posts: 506
Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2003 5:00 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by thecook »

i have a similar problem, everytime i press the fog light switch, the parkers and interior lights turn on but fog light dont turn on... i have to replace the switch... but cbf coz hardly use fog lights anyway
DZYRME
Mechanic
Posts: 407
Joined: Tue Jul 29, 2003 5:00 pm
Location: I Represent the Northside!!
Contact:

Post by DZYRME »

Well, my Fog light switch decided to give up on me last night. :( Does anybody know what the part number is for the switch, and whereabouts in Melbourne I should get one?
User avatar
SchumieFan
Oldtimer
Posts: 5875
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2004 5:00 pm
Location: GPS signal lost
Contact:

Post by SchumieFan »

hey guys, just to throw a spanner in the works...

would this explain my problem with my foglights whereas i turn them on and only the park lights come on... this was after i blew the HEADLIGHT fuse
User avatar
payaya
Oldtimer
Posts: 3670
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2003 5:00 pm

Post by payaya »

been through all this! I've been through two fog light switches take it apart, and i bet you the back of the switch is melted!

Its becuase the relay in actually behind the fog swtich and the relay isnt able to take the long hours they are turned on for.

I acutally bypassed the swtich hooked up a second switch with its own relays and stuff.

kempys in NZ have heaps. 60 bucks from what i remember.
Dr_Jones
Veteran Mechanic
Posts: 848
Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2002 5:00 pm
Location: Brisbane
Contact:

Post by Dr_Jones »

For those folkes with the melty switch, I am one of them. If the switch still works to turn the park lights on and off like mine does then you can use an external relay to turn on the fogs, just use the output of the switch that is still working to turn the parkers on.
User avatar
efteoh
Grease Monkey
Posts: 224
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2004 6:00 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by efteoh »

ive made a fix for this previously. it should be here, just to a search
User avatar
payaya
Oldtimer
Posts: 3670
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2003 5:00 pm

Post by payaya »

here you go guys this is what the insides of a melted switch looks like.

Image
User avatar
payaya
Oldtimer
Posts: 3670
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2003 5:00 pm

Post by payaya »

Image
Post Reply