help !!! i blown my gearbox !

fto617 · Post by **fto617** » Mon May 31, 2004 1:28 pm

hey guys ! i just blowed my gearbox

i feel soo embarassed !
damn man anywayz
hey i was wondering where can i find another tiptronic 4spd gearbox in sydney?
also could i fit an 5spd tip box in?
or a 5sp manual?
just a thought !
and how much aprox to get my gearbox fixed???
damn ! anyhelp would save me !!!

rxboy · Post by **rxboy** » Mon May 31, 2004 1:33 pm

The cost really depends on what's actually happened to the gearbox. It cost $2500 to recondition my 5spd, half of which was covered by warranty. But I'm in Melb.

fto617 · Post by **fto617** » Mon May 31, 2004 1:36 pm

what happen to your gear box? is it 5spd manual or tip?
damn man i feel like such a loser blowing an AUTO gearbox !

rxboy · Post by **rxboy** » Mon May 31, 2004 1:38 pm

It's a 5spd auto. I'm not exactly sure what happened. I was told that it practically fell apart.

How did u blow it?

fto617 · Post by **fto617** » Mon May 31, 2004 1:50 pm

man i thought i was on 3rd gear and downgeared
but was on 2nd to 1st lol
was goin at around 100?
damn

Theremin · Post by **Theremin** » Mon May 31, 2004 2:01 pm

Something doesn't sound right there because the tip box shouldn't let you change down if the revs would be too high. How many kms has your car done?

From what I've heard, most people have spent $2000-2500 to recondition their tip box. Putting a manual gearbox in is probably not worth it (there are other posts which explain why this is so). Not sure about going up to a 5 speed tip box.

fto617 · Post by **fto617** » Mon May 31, 2004 2:09 pm

my car has done 110000km god dammit man
tip box are *~delightful!~* !
actually i'm just sh*t ! damn man such a loser
if i do change to 5spd tip box besides changing the box what else needs to be mod?>
would it be a big job guys?

Slither · Post by **Slither** » Mon May 31, 2004 2:24 pm

Strange, the gearbox shouldn't have let u down change if the revs were to high, sure u didnt blow the engine ?

fto617 · Post by **fto617** » Mon May 31, 2004 2:47 pm

i didnt blow the engine
coz i can still start the car and stuff
and engine sounds fine
if i blow my engine i cant start engine right?
it just sounds weird when i put into gears i can hear the reving sound PLUS a weird sqeeky noise
so yea i done think i killed the engine

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Mon May 31, 2004 3:00 pm

take it to any automatic transmission specialist, they should be able to sort it out coz i think it's the same gearbox used by VRX Lancers/MRs.... (unless it's a 5-spd, which i think it's shared with the Magna, not 100% sure on that)

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Mon May 31, 2004 3:33 pm

fto617 wrote:man i thought i was on 3rd gear and downgeared
but was on 2nd to 1st lol
was goin at around 100?
damn

You must have been in 3rd as you cannot downshift from 2nd to 1st when you're doing 100.

The FTO has all sorts of protection to help you avoid doing dumb things to your car, such as variable rev limiters and a down shift restrictor. When you change gears using the tip lever you are not physically changing gears, rather you engage a switch which sends a signal to the car requesting that it changes the gear. Before it does so, however, it will check to make sure the revs aren't too high or low etc. and only then will it change.

The gear box must of been on its way out or something else has happened and it just coincided or was triggered by the downshift, but it was not caused by the downshift as you cannot change into first when doing 100.

fto617 · Post by **fto617** » Mon May 31, 2004 6:15 pm

yea ruchi maybe your right
damn man
so sad
now haf to look for new gearbox
anyone have one for sale???
and how much would it cost me to fix it???
please someone tell me (from sydney !!!)

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Mon May 31, 2004 6:34 pm

fto617 wrote:it just sounds weird when i put into gears i can hear the reving sound PLUS a weird sqeeky noise

OK so you can change gears... can you actually drive the car? Are there any other issues or is it just the "weird sqeeky noise"?

How does it sound when the car is in neutral, both idling and reving?

WILL · Post by **WILL** » Mon May 31, 2004 7:34 pm

You won't know the cost in fixing it until the mechanic opens you box to find the problem.

If you are going to change to the 5 speed tip then besides the 5 tip you would need the wiring for it and ecu. In the end its not worth it.

Post by **smorison** » Mon May 31, 2004 7:58 pm

that sucks man...

you'll need to have a mechanic work out what's wrong before a price can be quoted to fix it...

do you have a mechanic? or are you now searching for one?

fto617 · Post by **fto617** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:41 am

i'm searching for one !
my currnet one hasnt come across rebulding an auto fto box they've done manual so i dont trust them !
any suggeston would be a great help ! now i'm stranded

and still waiting for steves cf bonet group buy !

fto617 · Post by **fto617** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:42 am

i'm searching for one !
my currnet one hasnt come across rebulding an auto fto box they've done manual so i dont trust them !
any suggeston would be a great help ! now i'm stranded

and still waiting for steves cf bonet group buy !

RichardH · Post by **RichardH** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:48 am

Check out the article about getting engine ECU error codes out of the FTO. That apparently also works for the tip box - the 'N' light flashes its own distinct error code.

Check it out -

http://www.ftowa.com/html/workshop/workshopart07.html

...and report back the code from the transmission.

- Rich

RichardH · Post by **RichardH** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:52 am

Of course, if it whines, grinds and goes nowhere then the code is probably immaterial!!

- Rich

fto617 · Post by **fto617** » Tue Jun 01, 2004 2:06 am

i dont have any lights flashing????