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Guys,

Whats d best oil to use for 6A12 Mivec engine?

Eoh

Hmm, well there aint really such a thing as the best, as it is all different relative to the car, one FTO might love Mobil 1, another fto wount...

Use the search function, there are many many many topics on this all ready

HRD2BQT wrote:Guys,

Whats d best oil to use for 6A12 Mivec engine?

Eoh

i use motul 6100 a fully synthetic oil. its a bit more expensive than others however my car gets "driven" so i like the extra protection

smorison wrote: i use motul 6100 a fully synthetic oil. its a bit more expensive than others however my car gets "driven" so i like the extra protection

this explains a lot
does this explain that "weird stuff" you discovered in your car when it was bought? as that old thread specified ("weird stuff found in your FTO?")
hehehe...

lal wrote: this explains a lot

good

lal wrote:
does this explain that "weird stuff" you discovered in your car when it was bought? as that old thread specified ("weird stuff found in your FTO?")
hehehe...

no, nup, what are you on...???? lol !!!!

i can't find any relationship between the way i drive my car and a pack of condoms...

lol

smorison wrote:

lal wrote: this explains a lot

good

lal wrote:
does this explain that "weird stuff" you discovered in your car when it was bought? as that old thread specified ("weird stuff found in your FTO?")
hehehe...

no, nup, what are you on...???? lol !!!!

i can't find any relationship between the way i drive my car and a pack of condoms...

lol

yeah.. probably doesn't explain how you drive...
jsut shows that the car always ends up with owners who likes extra protection... you with oil.. the previous owner with a different kind of protection in mind

anyways... back to the topic..
yeah.. many threads on this topic...
I use Shell Ultra... one of the cheaper fully synthetic type...
since i do 30k kms a year and oil change every 5K kms... it adds up... so i use that as it serves the car very well.

ok i'm gonna steer clear from the condom talk and stick with topic for once

i had Mobil-1 Synthetic but now i've been converted to Motul Synthetic 6100 as well - it's one the best money can get...

lal wrote: yeah.. probably doesn't explain how you drive...
jsut shows that the car always ends up with owners who likes extra protection... you with oil.. the previous owner with a different kind of protection in mind

hey that's really cool i couldn't work it out... hahahah

yeah anyway back on topic before i have to sick the forum nazi on myself

I recently switched to Penrite HPR5 and am quite impressed. It's semi-synthetic, rated a 5W-40 and is priced well.

I choose this oil for 3 main reasons:
1) it's low temperature viscosity (5W) which provides a much smoother engine in the morning. You can definitely notice this over other 10W and 15W oils.
2) it's high temperature viscosity (40) which offers better protection than the numerous "30"s that are out there and keeps your tappets quiet unlike many of the oils rated at "50".
3) It's under $40, whereas many others in this class are around the $60 mark or more.

Mobil 1 (5W-50) for the last 4 years. No complaints. Good stuff.

- Rich

I use Mobil 1 5W-50, but I'm sure Motul is also good (or better). See here for info re. oil...

http://www.ftoaustralia.com/modules.php ... opic&t=775

Atm I'm using Shell Helix Ultra and before that I was using a Lubrimaxx oil (an Aussie company) and I again plan to use something different on the next change. I'm trying to get a feel for as many oils as possible and see what suits me best.

5W40 is a nice oil for variety of condtions, but its cold visocity is too thin for the FTO!

Use what mitsu recommend for the FTO. If you dont you might just use a 0W40 if you dont care!

10W40-50 is well good enough for the FTO.

using a 5W40 will cause lower oil pressure than a 10-15W40 at startup, which means lower protection.

I have been using Mobil 1 5W50 since new. Great oil!

Been thinking of using Mobil 1 0W40 for better consumption but was wondering if a 100k engine would be able to take the 'thinness'?

Morever, we done have anyting below 25deg in hot singapore all year round. so 0W wun possible be needed...rite

what do u guys reckon?

I can't actually find anything in the FTO factory/service docs about xW-whatever. All it says is "SG or higher".

But I believe the general climate temperature has a lot to do with oil selection. Lowest/highest expected outside temps affect it.

Like, our funky new Magna AWD 3.5l V6 lists the following:

-30 degrees to 40 degrees: 5W-30
-25 degrees to 40 degrees: 10W-30
-25 degrees to 50+ degrees: 10W-40 or 10W50
-15 degrees to 50+ degrees: 15W-40 or 15W50
-10 degrees to 50+ degrees: 20W-40 or 20W50

Bear in mind these are for a big V6 that doesn't rev as high as ours. So don't take this as FTO-specific. But you get the idea.

So basically, if I were to move from Perth to Canberra, I'd reconsider oil selection! And buy lots of thermal underwear.

For mine, I use what the local RalliArt garage recommends. Simple as that. Hence the 5W-50 oil.

- Rich

RichardH wrote:So basically, if I were to move from Perth to Canberra, I'd reconsider oil selection! And buy lots of thermal underwear.

Hey! I live in Canberra... and I don't wear thermal underwear
Although I am from the Ukraine

You're right on both accounts Richard, Mitsubishi don't list a rating of xW-xx for the FTO they only list that it must be of a "SG" grade. Likewise you should choose your oil not only based on the car you have but also the environmental conditions.

Personally I find a 10W is fine in the summer months but a 5W makes a noticeable difference in the cooler months (Melbourne) . But I normally stick to a upper limit of 40 all year round, as I find if I go to a 50 the tappets get louder.

Yeah, I'm happy with 5W-50, what with it being sodding cold overnight in wintery Perth. By sunbaked Aussie standards anyway, hehe.

And my long-held suspicions about my GPX's engine noise have been pleasantly confirmed... it was in fact all "old clutch" noise.

Just had a new standard clutch fitted, and it's idling and revving as quiet as a mouse now. I can only hear one valve out of 24 chattering quietly away to itself.

The old thrust bearing was raspy and noisy to turn by hand after it had been replaced. And all the springs in the clutch plate were rattling around very badly. It's sooo nice now. Lovely quiet engine (for a GPX ).

- Rich

I have used allot of oils too..

tried motuls 6100(5w40) and 8100(5w40) and penrites and shell utlra's.. but i still think Mobil one(5w50) sounds the best...

For colder starts u need a lower rating (Xw40) or (5wXX)?


Jono'

Jono, the first number (with the W) relates to the cold temperature. The lower the number the more viscos it is at a lower temperatures. i.e. 5w will be more viscos than 10w at lower temperatures.

The second number relates to higher temperatures, the higher the number the better the oil will protect your car in higher temperatures.

You can however go too far. If you use an oil that is too viscos in the cold your engine may not get enough protection in the morning and the same goes for the opposite side of things in the heat.

Having said that, when choosing an oil you should consider the type of engine you have, the condition it is in, the environmental conditions of where you live and how you drive the car.

There is no one "perfect" oil and hence why so many people are using such a wide variety.