RPW FTO Turbo Kit nearly complete

Mitsiman · Post by **Mitsiman** » Sat May 31, 2003 11:50 am

We have been working hard on our production line turbocharger kit for the fto so we figured it was time for an update for everyone.

We origonally looked at a twin turbo kit but unfortunatly it was just getting too tricky with room so we went back to a single turbo kit using a Garret GT-28 series turbo which can be upgraded to a GT024R unit with no problems.

The test car which was loaned to us by a WA customer, has got the turbo, pipes etc all fitted except for the intercooler pipes which can be made any time on a customers car.

We are getting the car back on Tuesday and will of course take some photos.

From there we have to complete the oil and water line fittings and the kit will be ready for sale once we use the master kits to begin manafacturing of the items. We made this kit using the origonal exhaust manifolds so this will enable us to produce a cheaper kit than expected although pricing is yet to be confirmed.

We will initially make five complete kits.

The kits will come complete with

Turbocharger rated to customers specific requirements but initially comes with the GT-28 300hp turbo set to 7 psi
Oversize injectors and risign rate fpr unit
oil and water lines
Decompression head gaskets
dump pipe back to standard cat converter

We will also have available the Greddy E-Manage piggy back systems and eletronic boost controllers for tuning etc.

This test vehicle is not actually going to be run on the turbo but the kit is going to a customer in the eastern states so we will not have any dyno sheets etc available at this time.

Although I am sure that plenty of people will be posting there own results as they get the kits.

We will keep everyone updated and give some pricing out soon. Feel free to ask any questions though.

David Thomas
www.rpw.com.au

MattG · Post by **MattG** » Sat May 31, 2003 1:30 pm

Cool, I was wondering how these were coming along.

I'm sure there will a few questions when the kit & testing is complete. But until things are finalised I guess there isn't much point in asking anything.

Any estimates on how long until the first 5 kits are for sale - couple of weeks / couple of months?

M@

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Sat May 31, 2003 1:34 pm

Hmmmmm Mitsiman are u guys still doing the 6A13 Mivec??? If r, how far away before its completed??

Mitsiman · Post by **Mitsiman** » Sat May 31, 2003 3:16 pm

Yes we are halfway through that conversion.
We only recently got a wrecker 6A12 Mivec motor which to work with and have pulled th heads off that and are now swapping them across to the 6A13 engine.

Probably several weeks away from finishing that.

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Sat May 31, 2003 7:53 pm

there is 6A13 MIVEC??

so is this single turbo kit meant for the 6A12 MIVEC or 6A13 block with MIVEC head, or just the 6A13 itself?

...i'm a little confused now.

Sounds good though!!

MattG · Post by **MattG** » Sat May 31, 2003 8:11 pm

There were two different things being developed.

1. The 6A12 turbo kit. The twin turbo option has been dropped and development continuing on the single turbo option.

2. Experimenting with sticking a 6A12 Mivec head on a 6A13 block.
The 6A13 didn't come out in a Mivec model (as far as I know).
This would have the benefit of 2.5L capacity with the benefits of MIVEC.

Does this clear things up?

As a side note - Dannyboy found a 6A13 Twin Turbo from a Galant VR4 and stuck that in his FTO. This is not a MIVEC, just a 2.5L twin turbo putting out some serious power.

M@

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Sat May 31, 2003 9:00 pm

i see... i see...

hmm... hopefully the single turbo kit is much more affordable (due to its relative simplicity compared to a twinturbo kit).

AJY11Q · Post by **AJY11Q** » Sat May 31, 2003 11:22 pm

I was gonna send E-mail to david about FTO Turbo kit..
so..we have single turbo instead twin turbo..

i'm not a mechanic so i don't know much about car..
but What I do know is that a lot of major Jap tuning parts makers failed to
put forged induction to FTO..
and that's another reason why FTO is not so popular to modify
Best looking in that price range but not easily tunable..

anyway, sounds like RPW managed and made good turbo kit..
if, this kit has good reputation from customers
I will hook one up and kick all
skyline and ugly imprezza's ass

what do we still need from this 5list?
intercooler, piggy back and whatelse, fart blowoff valve and whatelse??

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Sun Jun 01, 2003 1:49 am

exhaust manifolds, modified exhaust, upgraded fuel pump, air filter, nuts n' bolts etc...

MattG · Post by **MattG** » Sun Jun 01, 2003 11:26 am

AJY11Q wrote:
but What I do know is that a lot of major Jap tuning parts makers failed to
put forged induction to FTO..
and that's another reason why FTO is not so popular to modify
Best looking in that price range but not easily tunable..

anyway, sounds like RPW managed and made good turbo kit..
if, this kit has good reputation from customers
I will hook one up and kick all
skyline and ugly imprezza's ass
??

Yeah that's right, strengthening the engines internals is definitely the best way to put a turbo on a non-turbo car, but it is also a lot more expensive.
As Dave stated this is a 7PSI kit (low-boost). If you wanted to really crank up the boost, I would suggest strengthening the engine's internals.

M@

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 6:30 pm

so with this low psi, it should kick in around 2-3krpms ???
whatsort of power would the 6a12 pump out with 7psi (est at the treds)
would this kit be sutible for the non-mivec 6a12s ?
would this kitbe a bolt on, that most mechanics would be able to install ?
and the big qustion on everyones mind, with this installation, would we be able to own sti's gtrs and evos oh and tt supras, and other high output cars ? like our cars are a lot lighter then them

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 6:44 pm

you may be a little too 'optimistic' if you hope to outrun Skyline GTRs, STIs and TT Supras, but i don't see why it would hard to own Teggy-Rs, Celicas, Preludes, S13 Silvias etc.. then again, i guess you'll just have to fnd out for yourselves (and have fun along the way)

based on the T28 turbocharger (and assuming it includes an FMIC), i'm estimating 7psi of boost will give approx 220hp at the treads (on a MIVEC motor and give or take 30-40hp less on a GR). i believe it should start producing boost from 2800rpm onwards and prob trail off slightly at 7500rpm... (my guess) either way, there should be plenty of squirt in her once you stab the right foot in, even in 5th at highway speeds...

although it is designed as a bolt-on kit, you'd still need to find a mechanic who knows how to tune the computer to suit the fuel mapping and ignition control as well... if anybody knows any workshop that knows their sh*t about turbo'd MIVECs, hook us up (if you're in melbourne)!

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Mon Jun 02, 2003 7:51 pm

ahh, i have a gr, and i already beat Teggy-Rs, Celicas, Preludes, S13/s14/s15 Silvias,etc

AJY11Q · Post by **AJY11Q** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 12:55 am

02NV wrote:you may be a little too 'optimistic' if you hope to outrun Skyline GTRs, STIs and TT Supras, but i don't see why it would hard to own Teggy-Rs, Celicas, Preludes, S13 Silvias etc.. then again, i guess you'll just have to fnd out for yourselves (and have fun along the way)

based on the T28 turbocharger (and assuming it includes an FMIC), i'm estimating 7psi of boost will give approx 220hp at the treads (on a MIVEC motor and give or take 30-40hp less on a GR). i believe it should start producing boost from 2800rpm onwards and prob trail off slightly at 7500rpm... (my guess) either way, there should be plenty of squirt in her once you stab the right foot in, even in 5th at highway speeds...

although it is designed as a bolt-on kit, you'd still need to find a mechanic who knows how to tune the computer to suit the fuel mapping and ignition control as well... if anybody knows any workshop that knows their sh*t about turbo'd MIVECs, hook us up (if you're in melbourne)!

220ps with 7psi at wheel?
with that power I think GTR, STi etc can't really run away far distance,
and integra or s15 won't be able to chase up
Am i wrong?? correct me..

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 3:35 am

AJY11Q wrote:220ps with 7psi at wheel?
with that power I think GTR, STi etc can't really run away far distance,
and integra or s15 won't be able to chase up
Am i wrong?? correct me..

perhaps i should have elaborated further by saying that 220ps on 7psi is more than enough to whip stock/mild tuned teggy-Rs, Celicas, Silvias etc...

and also bear in mind, 220ps is prob achievable with the right tuning and fuel (because 7psi or 0.5bar is considered as relatively high boost for a stock high-compression motor!)

you have to remember, most GTRs you see on the street would have some sort of modification done to it, even if it's just exhaust/filter etc. An average imported GTR you see on the roads these days are pumping nearly 360-400hp with basic mods, which equates to nearly 280-300hp at the wheels. Same goes for the TT Supra as well, but the STi would probably follow just behind by around 250hp atw (but don't forget its 4wd traction).

i guess it depends on the level of mods carried out by the cars you're running against (and how inconspicuous they look...) also, having all that power is useless if you don't know how to handle them or have the necessary supporting hardware (ie clutch) to make use of it...

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:54 am

meybe we can try get a group buy, when they are released, and also when we get them tuned, like do it in a group, that way the mechanic who tunes it will be good at it, and we will all getn icely tuned ftos

MattG · Post by **MattG** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:41 pm

I'm sure Andre's turbo FTO was beating those abovementioned cars, and he was only running about 7 PSI as far as I know.

I'm not sure about the boost kicking in at 2000-3000 rpm. It would also depend on the size / spool up time for the turbo. But my guess would be that 3000 would be a reasonable figure to expect.

Maybe that Turbo FTO article I scanned in a while ago may give you some good indications.

M@

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Sun Jul 06, 2003 7:54 am

** bumpage **

has anybody got any updates about this?

Mitsiman · Post by **Mitsiman** » Sun Jul 06, 2003 12:47 pm

Update - the first kit is going out to the customer just waiting on his payment and then we will have word on fitment.
This particular customer is only going with the 300hp turbo GT-28 ball bearing which is going to have a very low spool up I estimate around 2400 rpm but time will tell.

Once it is all finished I will get the details of the firm installing the kit so that anyone who wants to deal with them can do so as they will have experience wih the product.

David Thomas
www.rpw.com.au

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Sun Jul 06, 2003 1:31 pm

If you could provide names of firms/workshops in Melbourne who can install your kits too that'd be much appreciated!