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Would you be interested in complying with specific safety/anti-theft measures to get a lower insurance premium?

Poll ended at Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:14 am

Yes
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No
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Mutual Insurance?

Post by OzFTO »

Just thinking outside the box...

Does anyone know how to start up mutual insurance? Basically, the way it works is you get a group of like minded people who need insurance, they pay premiums into the fund and the pool is used to finance payouts. The big difference between mutual and regular insurance is that motor insurance companies use historicaldata to calculate your premium - that means that all the accidents/thefts that have occurred up to now are used to calculate how likely you are to have an accident. It means that there is NOTHING you can do to lower your premium except get older.

On the other hand, a mutual scheme is controlled by the members (so all have an interest in it staying financial). The main thing is all members must comply with certain requirements to better prevent accidents. For mutual FTO insurance these might include:
1. Regular roadworthy inspections by someone suitably qualified and authorised to inspect FTOs/Jap imports, etc
2. Must complete defensive driver's course
3. All vehicles must have certain anti-theft features
The overall goal is to have suitable insurance at a lower premium than is currently available from a normal underwriter.

So, that's the idea - anyone think it can be done? For background on how it's done commercially try http://www.fmglobal.com/about/ :idea:
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yeah, i'd do just about anything to lower my premium...despite never having had a claim or even a speeding ticket, all my quotes are just ridiculously high - its really the only reason why im holding back from buying an FTO at the moment... :(

besides, things like good alarms/immobilizers are VERY worthwhile having anyway, and the defensive driving courses are FUN! :D
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If I understand this correctly, this company only offer their products to SME & large corporate. So unless Steve want to start a FTO Club Australia Pty Ltd. & employ all the active member as an "marketing representative" then i guess is a no go.
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I only included the link as an example of how it has been done in other industries when they couldn't get insurance (they were considered too high risk - sound familiar?). A mutual fund can be set up for a whole lot of reasons - it does need people employed as managers/committee members etc. The fund members have specific rights and obligations they sign up to. The fund does need the appropriate legal, financial and risk management expertise. That's what I'm searching for - ayone who can give us a lead on how a mutual fund is set up legally and effectively.
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Hellsmurf - the strange thing is I got a heap of speeding tickets in my old VH Commodore when I was young and dumb but none in my FTO, despite doing a whole lotta Ks in it. Now I think the government gets too much of my money anyway so I don't like raising more revenue for them!

I was annoyed at my insurance premium - and more annoyed that I couldn't do anything to reduce the price. It's all calculated on what other people have done, not on what I have done (except if I had a bad driving history) - one of the most unfair and discriminatory systems around, but people accept it.

The only claim I ever made was when a coucil mower put a rock through my driver's side window, while I was doing 80km/h. The council paid up in 4 days - to shut me up (it was a serious safety issue) so it didn't go on my insurance record. But, I still pay because "...FTOs get stolen a lot" according to my insurance company - if that's true - why the hell can't I find salvaged spare parts easily???? :lol:
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Post by Teania »

??? I haven't found the insurance for FTO's too bad, a bit more than my old Lancer, which was worth less anyhow :D

My insurance company I find quite reasonable, poss. because I comply with their terms, I do have a very good alarm, car is garaged at night and parked in secure premises during the day.... It does pay to shop around - some companies didn;t care (the worst I found was the NRMA.) Same with the green slip - depends on who you go through.... I'll be changing next year - coz' I got a cheaper quote again.

To look at starting something like this up - I would think you would need to get very good legal advice to indemnify all concerned parties in unexpected situations.
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