For god sake!!! why you have to oversteer!!!!!

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For god sake!!! why you have to oversteer!!!!!

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but its partly my fault thou :roll:

any ways to increase back end grip??
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prob too much toe out on front wheels check your tyre pressure too

may pay to check wheel alignment too
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And not driving like a d*ckhead helps too ;)
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Bennoz wrote:And not driving like a d*ckhead helps too ;)
did i mention i was in GT4???? lol

nah, i was in a empty carpark

so it should be alrite
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vipfto wrote:prob too much toe out on front wheels check your tyre pressure too

may pay to check wheel alignment too
tyre pressure was F:33 R:30
are we able to adjust camber and toe in/out without camber kit???
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Criss wrote:
vipfto wrote:prob too much toe out on front wheels check your tyre pressure too

may pay to check wheel alignment too
tyre pressure was F:33 R:30
are we able to adjust camber and toe in/out without camber kit???
sure can on rear
just toe on front though unless you have a aftermarket camber kit

what size are your tyres? if your on 17`s should run them @ 40psi 30 is way to low
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I run 36 front and 34 back with 235/45/17's
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i'm running 215/45/17
so i should run 40 psi????

and aza, do you got any scrubbing of 235 tires???
i want to upgrade to 235 as well
remarkable grip ?????
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Criss wrote:i'm running 215/45/17
so i should run 40 psi????

and aza, do you got any scrubbing of 235 tires???
i want to upgrade to 235 as well
remarkable grip ?????
yes you should run @40
and for those size tyres (235) you should have a 8inch rim

@ aza i would run them at 38 to 40 still

reason to run psi higher on the 40/45 profile tyres is because they have a much lower side wall the pressure has to be high otherwise they build up too much heat causing them to `go off or have less grip` other effects incl fast tyre wear and they can actually unseat themselves from the bead causing a deflation and possible damage

aza can run slightly less as the 45 profile is not actually 45mm but 45% of the ratio of width of tyre (a very common misunderstanding)
OH and for 17x7 rim on FTO tyre size should actually be 215/40x17

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:oops: sorry I just whent out and looked at the psi and its at 38 front and 36 back :roll:
and yep I have the 17x 8's rims
as for grip well yep there is a sh*t load of that :twisted:

do you get any scrubbing of 235 tires??? yes on full lock or 1/2 lock when going up a driveway but most FTO's do that any way.
you just have to get the right off set rims.
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thanks everyone, reali mind opening for me=]
cus i'hv got a 17x7.5 on the front and 17x8 at the back
i decided to put 17X8 in the front now and hving 235 tires
and 225 at the back
do you think it's a good idea???
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i would stick with 225/40 front and possibly go 235/40 rear keep the wider rim at rear but why have two different size rims? if you go 235 front your speedo will be wrong
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i done know, i bought from a member here
and just a stupid question, why using 235 will make the speedo all wrong ?
how much will it +/-????
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Criss wrote:i done know, i bought from a member here
and just a stupid question, why using 235 will make the speedo all wrong ?
how much will it +/-????
rolling circumference of wheel and tyre will be much larger so eg if your doing 100kph with larger circumference you will be going faster than actually said on speedo as speed sensor in gearbox not at the wheels it would be opposite if your circumference is smaller
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wt if 235/40 rather than 235/45???
will it reduce the error ?
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vipfto wrote:
Criss wrote:i done know, i bought from a member here
and just a stupid question, why using 235 will make the speedo all wrong ?
how much will it +/-????
rolling circumference of wheel and tyre will be much larger so eg if your doing 100kph with larger circumference you will be going faster than actually said on speedo as speed sensor in gearbox not at the wheels it would be opposite if your circumference is smaller
I have had it tested and my speedo is out by 3-4Ks @100 with the set up I have.
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Don't do it! Lol. Imho you're ruining the character of the car. Bit of tail action is fun in an FF :), versus a boring under under under car only lol.

Just my 2c.
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it's not a bit action =[
it's a big action....
but i do prefer oversteer then understeer
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Post by Cat »

Well, I have not read so much rubbish in years........... most entertaining, keep it up.
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so do you have any advise?
you are from uk, dont you?
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