220kw Stock FTO!?

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220kw Stock FTO!?

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Hi everyone, I just wanted to check something over with some people that know more that I do about the 6A12. Right I was talking to a mate of a mate today who was congratulating me on my choice of an FTO, anyway next thing he's talking about 220kw stock being crazy and that some of the mirages he had seen last year down in Brisbane at the Jamboree had turbo FTO motors and their outputs must be crazy seeing as they have 220kw stock!? 8O :?

Anyway, I disagreed, I know that Mitsubishi has claimed 200Hp which is about 146kw right, for the mivec 6A12. So I've stated this whcih was ruled out by saying that there are two types of FTO motors. I said, right the mivec from the GPX and non-mivec from the GR. But this was not what he meant he seemed to think there was a stock motor that could not be imported into Australia :!: that had 220kw stock!

Now I know that Mitsubishi would have no doubt made adjustment durint the FTO gloruis 6 years of production, but did they ever change the power rating? And surely the Nakaya Tunes and GPvR's had more power but surely not this much more, do you al think maybe he meant 220Hp not Kw? What do you think? He claimed the motor was from a 98 FTO!? :?
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well firstly, you said that "there were mirages with stock turbo FTO motors"....nah uh...the 6A12 NEVER came from the factory with a turbo...he is either talking about the 2.5 litre 6A13 from the galant, of which there was a twin turbo model as used in the Galant VR4....or the 3 litre from the GTO...

Also, just to clarify, the motor was not at all changed during the production run...even with the 97 facelift model, the engine was left untouched....also, the GPvR doesnt actually have any more power, but it DOES have a factory LSD...

hope that clarifies a few points....
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also, if it was in a Mirage, how does he even know it was an FTO motor? it can't be because he saw Mivec, jeez, there was even a Mirage Cyborg R that had Mivec from the factory...

also, 220 kW is a *HELL* of a lot to put through the front wheels (looks pointedly at dannyboyau, scracy and any other turbo nutters :lol: )
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Hi hellsmurf, thanks for your comments. Sorry I should have worded that probably. I meant he thought it was a standard FTO motor with 220kw and a turbo on top of that meaning a crazy engine indeed.

As for if it was actually a FTO motor, I beleive that I had other freinds who went to the Jamboree who saw Mirage with FTO motors. I trust these guys to know the difference between a 6 cylinder and a 4. :lol:

Yeah, I agree, 220kw is crazy! That's why I questioned it so much, it can't be right!?Can it ? :roll: 8O
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Actually Mitsubishi did produce a turbo 6A12,but it was never available in the fto :wink:not sure what the power output was,i think it was around 179kw?
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<post edited coz i was completely wrong :oops: >
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ooops i might have just shot myself in the foot...a quick search on the net turned up this:
A turbo version of the non-MIVEC 6A12 engine was released too, which could pull 149kW - the same peak power as the wonderful atmo inducted MIVEC!
thats from Autospeed...
http://www.autospeed.com.au/cms/A_0307/article.html

ill keep looking, and report back with anything else on the "turbo 6A12"...

mind you its still not 220 kW, it has exactly the same output as a Mivec 6A12...
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the 6A12 twinturbo engine was used in the galant VR4 before they started using the 6A13 tt
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dannyboyau wrote:the 6A12 twinturbo engine was used in the galant VR4 before they started using the 6A13 tt
i think the 6A12TT makes 179kw stock, but no 6A12 motor (TT or not) makes 220kw stock... your friend needs to get his research checked.

edited: cheers danny! :D
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Post by dannyboyau »

hey mickey i think you need to edit that 179Kw is more than 220Hp

dont you mean 220Kw
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Post by G_A_V »

there was aparently a limited run of tt ftos from the mitsubishi show rooms, around 10 of them, i am pretty sure they came with 6a12tt, as seen in the galants, they were presents to all the mitsubishi executives
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wow that is the first time i heard about that.

would love to get hold of one

where did you find that information from
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i am not sure how true it is, but im pretty sure i read it on a forum or magzine somewhere
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Post by RallyMad »

Thanks everyone. I was fairly sure he was wrong. He was trying to tell me the Jap spec's had more power than Aussie spec cars. I just kept trying to tell him that they are all Jap spec (they where all built and sold in Japan) but he would have non of that. :( :? Oh well, thanks for your replies again.

It's interesting to hear about some of the other motors in the range as well, thanks again all.
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G_A_V wrote:i am not sure how true it is, but im pretty sure i read it on a forum or magzine somewhere
ahhh... don't you just love the forums... it's a notorious place where rumors are born, yet no proof to back it up LoL
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