Looking to swap engines - recommendations?

Chalice · Post by **Chalice** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:14 pm

Hi all, looking to possibly do an engine swap on the 96 GPX and go that path for turbo etc...

Ultimatley i'm looking to show the car and want some grunt under the hood as well as looks so with that in mind........

Recommendations?

JOeJOe · Post by **JOeJOe** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:46 pm

Read up on all the threads in the Turbo section, it'll answer all your questions.

FTEvolution · Post by **FTEvolution** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:26 am

Easiest 6A13TT (IMO), prefer to do 4G63T though, that is the way I would go if doing it all over again

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:56 pm

I looked into this a while back. IMO from the research I have done the 4G93T should be the easiest conversion you could do. This is the 1.8L turbo engine found in the GSR lancers. Since the GS model FTO had the 1.8L n/a version of this engine it should be a pretty straight forward swap as far as engine conversions go. That said there are still a couple of disadvantages to this swap.

rock_it · Post by **rock_it** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:04 pm

Umm ... If you can put the 4G93T in, the 63T will go in too ... Hence why Aus GSR's convert to 2.0L ... Very easy swap ...

Post by **I8A4RE** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:08 pm

rock_it wrote:Umm ... If you can put the 4G93T in, the 63T will go in too ... Hence why Aus GSR's convert to 2.0L ... Very easy swap ...

EXACTLY

FTEvolution · Post by **FTEvolution** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:40 pm

I8A4RE wrote:
rock_it wrote:Umm ... If you can put the 4G93T in, the 63T will go in too ... Hence why Aus GSR's convert to 2.0L ... Very easy swap ...
EXACTLY

+1

What matters in Mitsi conversions is the Blocks

6A's of all varieties essentially bolt in (apart from the one round the wrong way)

Same with 4G's of all varieties (again apart from the one round the wrong way)

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:38 pm

rock_it wrote:Umm ... If you can put the 4G93T in, the 63T will go in too ... Hence why Aus GSR's convert to 2.0L ... Very easy swap ...

^^I understand this and not disputing that fact. However I said the 4G93T would be easier. This is because from my understanding this engine will bolt straight up to the FTO gearbox.

Post by **I8A4RE** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:59 pm

Jamie wrote:
rock_it wrote:Umm ... If you can put the 4G93T in, the 63T will go in too ... Hence why Aus GSR's convert to 2.0L ... Very easy swap ...
^^I understand this and not disputing that fact. However I said the 4G93T would be easier. This is because from my understanding this engine will bolt straight up to the FTO gearbox.

I believe you are correct jamie but my knowledge in this matter is not very extensive

FTEvolution · Post by **FTEvolution** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:17 am

I8A4RE wrote:
Jamie wrote:
rock_it wrote:Umm ... If you can put the 4G93T in, the 63T will go in too ... Hence why Aus GSR's convert to 2.0L ... Very easy swap ...
^^I understand this and not disputing that fact. However I said the 4G93T would be easier. This is because from my understanding this engine will bolt straight up to the FTO gearbox.
I believe you are correct jamie but my knowledge in this matter is not very extensive

If a 4G93 bolts up, then an Evo 4+ 4G63 should too. The GS (with a 4G93 standard) also came with the INVECS II trans (didn't it? Someone please correct me if I am wrong, I really don't want to put this guy wrong).

You may need to modify some mounts for the clutch master cylinder and a few misc things, but the engine should bolt in.

(Jamie, sorry if I am wrong, but I am 99% sure

)

Post by **Bennoz** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:30 am

I wouldnt f**k around with 4 pots...

Just whack a 6A12 non mivec in & bolt hairdryer to it. No messing about with wiring!

Chalice · Post by **Chalice** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:46 pm

Cheers lads...now comes the hard part...finding an engine *sigh*

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:40 pm

I don't know why you would bother going 4g93 when you could chuck in a perfectly good 63 with the same effort..

When / if my engine dies I'm going the 4g63T route for sure..

and *if* it ever does, I will keep it off the road until it is AWD .. it would probably take me a few years though

Post by **Bennoz** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:52 am

Mr_Charisma wrote: I will keep it off the road until it is AWD .. it would probably take me a few years though

Yeah, yeah, just like you & every other 'AWD' pipe dreamer

I'll be long dead before anyone on here a. finds the 20 grand required to do it, b. actually does it!

FtoSam · Post by **FtoSam** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:09 pm

Bennoz wrote:
Mr_Charisma wrote: I will keep it off the road until it is AWD .. it would probably take me a few years though
Yeah, yeah, just like you & every other 'AWD' pipe dreamer

I'll be long dead before anyone on here a. finds the 20 grand required to do it, b. actually does it!

I will get it done... but that said, it is still a fair way off... need to get some more power first...

I'd go with a new engine... 4G63T or 6a13tt for the win...

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:45 pm

FtoSam wrote:
Bennoz wrote:
Mr_Charisma wrote: I will keep it off the road until it is AWD .. it would probably take me a few years though
Yeah, yeah, just like you & every other 'AWD' pipe dreamer

I'll be long dead before anyone on here a. finds the 20 grand required to do it, b. actually does it!
I will get it done... but that said, it is still a fair way off... need to get some more power first...

I'd go with a new engine... 4G63T or 6a13tt for the win...

How much progress have you made so far? got an evo & spare FTO?

Reckon Simon will beat you to it?

Post by **Bennoz** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:46 pm

Exhibit A. Mention AWD pipe dreamer & they come out of the woodwork!

Now where's Yang & Jono Wong? Then the circle of life will be complete

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:17 pm

Bennoz wrote:Exhibit A. Mention AWD pipe dreamer & they come out of the woodwork!

Now where's Yang & Jono Wong? Then the circle of life will be complete

Won't be complete without Nacho..

Post by **I8A4RE** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:44 am

Someone say AWD?

Well i might be a little delayed in my AWD but thats only if i buy this 6a13. hehe

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:43 am

I8A4RE wrote:Someone say AWD?

Well i might be a little delayed in my AWD but thats only if i buy this 6a13. hehe

Don't man.. just do the 4g63 AWD instead