Stupid question. VRX engine in FTO

Rusty12 · Post by **Rusty12** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 6:42 pm

Would there be any possible way of getting a 3.5 litre magna VRX engine to gel with an FTO?

stupid question, just an idea, not really a car tech head, but 163 kw engine ain't bad.

Post by **smorison** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 6:49 pm

from memory the gearbox is on the other side of the engine on the Australian engines... maybe a 3 or 3.5l mivec from Japan ... but i'm not 100% sure

scracy · Post by **scracy** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:16 pm

Gearbox is on the opposite side, the engine would have a lot of clearance problems too.

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 1:41 pm

whats the point for 13 extra kw, the weight of the huge engine would make your car slower !, even if it did fit you would be looking at around 10k+ for 13 kw

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 4:15 pm

There would be a lot more torque, especially in the low-mid range, which would be better for things like drags at the stop lights.

Post by **smorison** » Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:34 pm

ruchi wrote:There would be a lot more torque, especially in the low-mid range, which would be better for things like drags at the stop lights.

i dunno about that i've smashed and i mean really smashed many VRX's ... to the point where on one "run's night" we put another person in my car and i pulled out of the run near the top of second gear cause i was so far ahead it wasn't worth worrying about anymore.

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 7:00 am

hehhe my car was packed full of mates, as well as luggage for overnight, and my friend had her magna with another person in it and full of luggage, and she kept up ok, guess the torque comes in handy with a lot of weight

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 10:33 am

I'm a little surprised. I've never dragged off a VRX, but with higher torque and higher power, both at a lower rev range, that the VRX has, I am surprised that you "smashed" it, I thought it would have been closer than that.

The VRX must be a far heavier car, or there must be some other factor that I'm missing, as with better torque at lower revs it should be beating the FTO.

MADFTO · Post by **MADFTO** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 1:57 pm

*smiles* I state that the other factor is sitting behind the wheel =)

Mind you, manga's are still FWD family sedans, regardless of upgrades to powerplant, etc. There's only so much power you can put down on a FWD. They're probably still running the standard gearbox as well.

Who knows *grins* too many factors.

rxboy · Post by **rxboy** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 8:48 pm

Anyone dragged the RalliArt version?

TheSentry · Post by **TheSentry** » Sun Dec 28, 2003 11:35 pm

Don't see too many Ralliart Magnas around but I don't like my chances against one. From memory the manual gets to 0-100 in around 6.5.

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:36 am

A manual FTO does it in around 6.8, so it's possible depending upon the drivers.

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:12 am

although 163kw on paper sounds pretty good, a 3.5l V6 motor in the FTO will no doubt make it very front-heavy, hence it will considerably upset the weight balance and handling of the car...

and G_A_V is right - for the money involved for the conversion, it does not justify the extra 13kw and a handful of torque... all you are getting is basically enhanced driveability but not necessarily quicker ETs.

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:17 am

if you want to do a engine conversion i suggest you use a 6A13 from a VR4 galant or VR4 legnum

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Sun Jan 04, 2004 8:35 pm

or 6a12tt

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Sun Jan 25, 2004 8:23 pm

for the cost of a VRX half cut and tranny, your better off going turbo or supercharged.