Mivec into Lancer

Kittz · Post by **Kittz** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:48 pm

Anyone know who has done this conversion in Victoria.
If so how much and who should I goto to get it done?
Any info will be very helpfull.

Thanks

spetz · Post by **spetz** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:57 am

I paid about $9300 for my conversion which included:
New HD Daiken clutch
New belts, water pump, reco gearbox with Version R LSD, FTO brakes all round, FTO rear swaybar, instrument cluster, climate control, 2.5" mandrel exhaust, engineers cert, and courtesy car, Cyborg black dash

-500 if no seats
-400 if no LSD
-100 for the dash

A few other things I'd say but I forgot now

Done in sydney though, don't know about Victoria

Kittz · Post by **Kittz** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:52 pm

Damn I thought it would be a big cheaper then that but I guess you did do more mods to it, was it faster then a FTO because its lighter?

spetz · Post by **spetz** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:42 am

It wasn't as fast as I expected but yeah FTO's are a joke to race

Friends MIVEC lancer which had some minor work done was even with a 5.7L Caprice

They were definately not happy when I asked them just to be a dickhead whether it was an 8 or a 6... they quitely said "V8..."

droidy · Post by **droidy** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:16 pm

Kittz, whereabouts are you? I'd suggest you search down all the bits you need on this site. Much cheaper than wreckers. And you'd be surprised the amount of fto stuff people on this site have.
I can do most of this this swap for you, probably about 90 % if not running

Then go and get it all checked over by a qualified mechanic if you want to.. I'll do it for a lot less than a workshop will

Do it man, drive it hard, it ain't slow.. 200 kg lighter than fto...

robsta · Post by **robsta** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:02 pm

droidy wrote:...
Do it man, drive it hard, it ain't slow.. 200 kg lighter than fto...

lancers only weigh 950 or 980kg?

droidy · Post by **droidy** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:29 pm

No, I think lancer is over 1100 kg some how?!

spetz · Post by **spetz** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:18 am

I get different readings at different scales

Minimum I got was about 1080kg with me in it but no interior besides drivers seat and no boot at all
And max I got was 1120 without me but full interior etc

Regadless, I have raced a fair share of FTO's and the difference I put on them does seem like 150-200kg or so

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:21 pm

spetz wrote:It wasn't as fast as I expected but yeah FTO's are a joke to race

Friends MIVEC lancer which had some minor work done was even with a 5.7L Caprice

They were definately not happy when I asked them just to be a dickhead whether it was an 8 or a 6... they quitely said "V8..."

Must be a beast of a Lancer. The caprice does low 14's.

So this lancer can keep up with a WRX??

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:50 pm

why a Mivec in a Lancer????? Dont get it.

spetz · Post by **spetz** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:28 pm

Yeah the lancer did low 14s
It was fairly similar to R34 GTT's and TT GTO's and stuff as well
Some rexes would lose some would cane it though
Anything under 5+ litres with no boost had no chance!

It's that blue one that did 14.2 at WSID. My housemate bought it. And did some more mods to it so I would say it would be closer to a high 13 sec Lancer

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:48 am

14.2 is getting damn quick for Mivec Lancer.

Not many FWD cars would be able to achieve this mark. Even the Mazda 3 MP3 with massive power and torque would not get a 14.2.

Congrats!

spetz · Post by **spetz** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:29 pm

Not my car
It was HRD2BQT's car
Then my housemate bought it and now another member here has it (Bamboujiken)

My car should be way way faster than that

HRD2BQT · Post by **HRD2BQT** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:34 pm

14.3 @ 94mph
2.145 60"

14.3 is done on fat 225 street tyres and fairly gutted interior. This car is capable of getting into high 13's with semi-slicks tyres and more weight reduction.

With ECU + tuning, low 13 to mid 13's is achievable. But that's nothing new this day seeing Honda dipping into 12's now a days. I even have a friend with stock bottom end B16 on an EG Civic hatch clocked 13.5 (Dynoed to 119kwatw) - now dats fast.

bigpitty1 · Post by **bigpitty1** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:18 pm

I think the lancer is over 1100 kg well at least a 96 model, coz I had a mate with one and used to race it with my 93 liberty which is about 1200kg and I used to beat it and my literty doesn't make much more power than the lancer.

I recon that those times are archievable coz I have seen a lancer pull a low 14 before and I think it was making about 130kw at the wheels but it was a turbo.

FTEvolution · Post by **FTEvolution** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:51 am

bigpitty1 wrote:I think the lancer is over 1100 kg well at least a 96 model, coz I had a mate with one and used to race it with my 93 liberty which is about 1200kg and I used to beat it and my literty doesn't make much more power than the lancer.

The thing with turbo/non turbo isn't the power rating, it's the torque. My old GPX made 111 kw atw but couldn't get close to a rex that made 94kw atw. Why? Because of the torque the turbo provided...It's all about the acceleration and the weight.

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:53 am

yep its how the engine produces power.

A peaky motor is never going to beat a car which produces max power/torque at much lower rpm.

I would take a FTO with a 3.0L 135KW motor, becasue you will be procudes 50% more torque at lower rpm.

bigpitty1 · Post by **bigpitty1** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:04 am

FTEvolution wrote:
bigpitty1 wrote:I think the lancer is over 1100 kg well at least a 96 model, coz I had a mate with one and used to race it with my 93 liberty which is about 1200kg and I used to beat it and my literty doesn't make much more power than the lancer.
The thing with turbo/non turbo isn't the power rating, it's the torque. My old GPX made 111 kw atw but couldn't get close to a rex that made 94kw atw. Why? Because of the torque the turbo provided...It's all about the acceleration and the weight.

I know a turbo engine will make more torque as the turbo puts more air into the engine just like with the old school V8's, the one with the bigger capacity had more torque as it could get more air in, well thats how I look at it.

my liberty is a non-turbo and makes 100kw as stated in the hand book, and my mates lancer was pretty much stock with only a K&N and exhaust.

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:14 am

When boosted from 1 bar to 1.3 bar my power (with my current turbo) the power goes up about 10rkwkw but my torque goes up about 60nm atw.

My car is tuned only for about 270rwkw now....but its making about 480nm at 5000rpm which was better than before which was about 280 at the same rpm with stock stuff.

I have been debating this on the SAU forum..power is nothing without torque...

Some with basically the same engines/cars are pulling 230kw with cheap mods and say I wasted my money...but they are only getting around 320nm atw.

I'm getting close to 500....u tell me which one cains at the lights...

spetz · Post by **spetz** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:54 pm

Torque at the wheels mean nothing
My friends 3L Magna with slight mods makes 600 something

Get bigger/heavier wheels and this goes up, too many issues