Danny's And Jeff's 6A13 turbo Conversions

salacious · Post by **salacious** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 2:41 am

I know camskill (www.camskill.co.uk) in the UK do a racing clutch for the FTO. It costs 279UKP rather than standard Mitsi one at 125UKP. I do have a picture of it at home. I couldn't find a picture on the website but it is listed on the pricelist. You could email them and ask how makes it, you might be able to track down a local supplier.

Brian

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 3:20 am

thanks mate can you tell me if it is a twin plate as i basically have a single style race clutch in it now

salacious · Post by **salacious** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 5:59 am

It says
"Only really necessary for high-powered cars but the performance clutch is much heavier duty and the biting point is very much sharper. For the motorsport fan!"

It is on page 2 of the PDF

http://www.ftooc.org/contents/pages/fto ... _stuff.pdf

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 11:02 am

thanks for that, can you tell me which suppliers in that PDF sell the brake kit and the rear spoiler. the clutch it shows is like the one i currently have which is holding ok at the moment if i dont put my foot down. i really need a twin or triple plate clutch

salacious · Post by **salacious** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 11:44 am

I'll need to find the original sheet as that had the prices and suppliers on it. I'll have a look around for it.

I think Rikki Lamb has the brake kit on his FTO (featured in FTO News Volume 4 Issue 1 you can download the PDF from FTO OC), his is listed as having KAD 6 Pot Big brake conversion with 330mm discs. I think this conversion was about 1200UKP.

I have just ordered Brembo's for my own FTO, I should get them early next week. These are also 330mm discs but I think they are only 4 pot rather than 6 pot.

I thought the rear spoiler was just a version R spoiler!

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 11:47 am

it is a version r spoiler but i have had my original spoiler broken off and would like to replace it with the version r one do you know who the suppler is.

salacious · Post by **salacious** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 12:33 pm

http://www.upauto.co.uk sell it for 140UKP excluding taxes (not painted). It is a copy, it ain't the original version R spoiler.

The FTO OC were talking about doing a group buy and getting a 15% discount.

The problem of living half way around the world, is that someone local to me isn't really convienent for you!

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:35 pm

i was hoping it was another company i rang them on monday and they are out of stock till september.

there is always air frieght

salacious · Post by **salacious** » Thu Jul 03, 2003 11:43 pm

I'll try and find the catalogue and check for sure that it is upauto

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 2:04 am

cheers thanks mate

lesfto · Post by **lesfto** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 3:55 am

danny... when your car is all done up, are you gonna have it featured in some magazines? flying the flag for FTOs and all that? SPEED is looking for FTOs... or any of the bigger mags for that matter...

Les

salacious · Post by **salacious** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 7:15 am

Danny I found the brochure
The spoiler was from upauto (I guess you'll have to wait until September)

The clutch has ClutchNet Corporation Made in USA on it and it was sold by Camskill in the UK
I found the US site http://www.clutchnet.com/
From the site
"Racing 3 Button "E-Z LOCK" Sprung Hub
For drag race use only. The discs features only 3 sintered ceramic pucks. A 3 Button disc is the most aggressive out of all discs we make. Engagement is harsh and instantaneous with no
compromise for slippage. This discs has the advantages of the solid hub metallic button clutch discs with the additional feature of the sprung hub. This is used in requirements where the drive train is susceptible to torsion damage. Specifically designed three
retainers protect damper springs from both sides, amd significantly improve safety of the product. Center has a unique feature of
being assembled with six rivets for extra strength. This disc does not require a clutch cover with a high-pressure load."

The Big brakes are made by KAD and cost 1470 UKP!!!
http://www.kad-uk.com
The kit is 330x28mm discs with type G caliper on 17" alloys. It mentions this on one of the pages. The Brembo kit I should be getting in the next few days is half that price also with 330mm discs. I think 700 quid is a lot to go from 4 to 6 pot.

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 5:40 pm

here's a food for thought...

those Japanese FTOs with Evo motors are mated to the factory FTO gearbox. So theoretically speaking, any clutches made for the 4G63B Evo motor should fit onto the FTO's gearbox (with some minor custom modifications i suspect).

Since there are soooo many aftermarket support for the 4G63B out there, surely there has to be a number of double/triple plated clutches out there that can be retrofitted onto the FTO's gearbox...??

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 11:47 pm

hopefully can find one made for the 6A13

emailed a couple of sites in Japan and just waiting for a reply

will go and have a look at a clutch out of a evo on monday and will see if they are the same and let you know.

I found a guy in newzealand who might have one for the VR4 so hopefully will get that one if it is available.

EURO · Post by **EURO** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 1:20 am

just a quickie.....
ive noticed a few Fto's for auction with Evo engines...would this not be a better transplant then the 6a13? or a bolt onto the 6a12??
or is it much more expensive to use the EVO engines???

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 2:59 am

well i cant be sure about the evo engines and how they would fit in, there would be a lot more support for after market parts for the evo engine. But the evo engine is only a 2 Ltr and the 6A13 is 2.5 Ltr and if you are going to go for after market turbo i would go 6A13 you can then go for a bigger turbo and will get less lag if you were to put the same turbo on the evo engine. I also went for the 6A13 because it is in the same family of engine as the original 6A12, it bolted straight in up to the original engine mounts and gearbox and then all the turbo plumbing, intercooler plumbing, manifolds would still need to be custom made for either motor. I am getting 400 Hp at the wheels and i havent even touched the internals and I am still using the original injectors that came with the motor. So who knows how much power this thing can put out with some serious work to the internals, bigger injectors and strengthen the drive line. Also if you want a good evo engine, not just a stock one you going to be paying a lot more than you will for a 6A13. I seen a rally spec engine not long ago from a evo 5 and it was for sale for $7000 you can get a complete 6A13 for between $4000 and $5000 with turbos manifolds and most of the original plumbing though really you better off making new plumbing as some of the original plumbing would prevent you closing the bonnet. It depends how much power you want, Mine still handles fantastic but i hardly ever put my foot down all the way any more. I have to gently push my foot down just a bit and she takes off like a rocket, put my foot down all the way and she just starts spinning. But i dont have to thrash my motor now for it to get up and boogie, and the torque is awesome. And the after market parts for the 6A13 are out there, I just have to find them. And i dont really need to do the internals i got heaps of power now it runs like a dream, i am just going to do them to see how much power i can get with a bigger turbo and some serious boost.

MattG · Post by **MattG** » Sun Jul 06, 2003 5:03 pm

Hey Dannyboy,

It looks like Kempys over in New Zealand are copying you (see link). However they are only running a 4 speed tiptronic (wonder if they have modified the auto gearbox to cope with the power) although I doubt they are going to such extreme power like you are getting.

http://www.kempys.co.nz/ftovk.htm

M@

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Sun Jul 06, 2003 5:44 pm

i have to say, it looks waaaay better with the cam cover on...

...but it's a non-turbo 6A13 though'..??

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 12:59 am

I am actually in the process of making a polished aluminium cover which will have FTO Turbo on it, hopefully will look even better.

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 11:31 pm

well i got a new rear spoiler and it is all painted and fitted.

will be doing some photo shoots as soon as we get some nice fine weather in Perth.

here is a link to a few pics of the Perth FTOs

http://www.ftowa.com/images/Gallery/MC2 ... /index.htm

there was really nice FTOs there on the day and was great fun in the wet