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Post by **I8A4RE** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:34 pm

ha ha im not a newbie any more so i can ask this question last night i sat up to like 2 oclock tryin to find the answer to this question (and yes i used the search and typed in turbo) but still failed to find the answer so im just gonna ask

Here it goes

Can you turbo an Fto and keep the 4-speed tip box cause i read some where you cant cause you have to get a new computer and and that wont communicate correctly with the gearbox?????

Not that i want to do this (yet) just very curious

Now let the slagging begin

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:59 pm

Short answer is yes, its been done before already

jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:17 pm

its more troublesome to turbo an tip... but can be done...

but your budget needs to be considerablely high and your boost relatively low...

now get the f**k out for asking this question you newb

Liquidity · Post by **Liquidity** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:19 pm

hey guys

would it be fair to say a more "cost effective" or even perhaps, better value solution would be the 4g63t > fto swap, over turbo'ing the v6 mivec?

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:40 pm

Its been done already, but its with manual and not tip as I8AFRE were asking.

I don't think its a good idea to put a 4G63T and mate it with a tip box. I've seen a bad review on the GTA already (sorry barfy), so it can only be worst on a FTO.

http://www.ftoaustralia.com/modules.php ... pic&t=7658

From memory there are 5 FTO with 4G63T, two of them are AWD, one is the famous factory Taeivon LM and the other one is the gold one from Cyprus.

Search for AWD if anyone want to read more about AWD FTO....

jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:22 pm

a low budget turbo conversion will cost 8 - 10k

a proper turbo conversion will cost 15,000$
as would an evo engine conversion...

and a 6A13TT would be in excess of $20,000

the decision is yours

bigpitty1 · Post by **bigpitty1** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:03 pm

Most of the cost will be labor so if you done the conversion yourself you would save a grand or more.

I reacon the 6a13TT conversion would be cheaper than the 4G63T coz the 6a13 will bolt up to the fto gearbox and I think engine mounts aswell, with the 4G63T you might need some modifcations to get the engine on the gearbox and custom engine mounts.

You can still have an auto when turboing you just have the stock ECU and harness in place and have a standalone ECU like a Microtech or haltech run your engine, this way everything like the fans, stepper motor, gear box will run standard.

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:09 pm

few things...

Plan your project...its not plug and play. in the end 99% talk about it and only a handfull of people have had the cash and done it.

Go manual if you want better performance, in generally the manual FTOs seeem to go better...although my tip is fine and so was FTO388s

And yes WRs turbo setup is a 4s-tip.

Liquidity · Post by **Liquidity** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:49 pm

from what i've gathered around the traps, the 6a13tt only fits with some major stuffing around (moving lots of stuff out the way) or only if you go single turbo conversion?

anyone verify?

Post by **I8A4RE** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:04 am

is ther any difference between the 5 speed and 4 speed tip??? why is it so expensive? just because it hasnt been done much therefore there is no bolt kit available

I wouldnt want a manual i brought fto because of the tip (and looks of course) i might as well just go join the other four millon pleebs and buy a skyline if i wanted a manual lol (no offence to skyline owners i just think they r way to common but i can see y they r popular you just wouldnt get me owning 1)

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:36 am

Liquidity wrote:from what i've gathered around the traps, the 6a13tt only fits with some major stuffing around (moving lots of stuff out the way) or only if you go single turbo conversion?

anyone verify?

its better than trying to fit a 4G63T.

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:19 am

Remember we need to keep this thread under 1 page or I8AFRE aren't going to read it, or the next newbie who comes along either won't bother to read it or do a search.

Seriously if you going to turbo a tip, you need to strengthen the torque converter, itâ€™s the weakest link in the FTO tip setup and also get a transmission cooler.

JayME · Post by **JayME** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:16 pm

Liquidity wrote:from what i've gathered around the traps, the 6a13tt only fits with some major stuffing around (moving lots of stuff out the way) or only if you go single turbo conversion?

anyone verify?

There is an FTO here in CHCH with 6a13 running the factory 4spd Tip box (well beefed up somehow apparently) Fits in the engine bay quiet tidily and is still twin turbo. Apparently engine mounts have been modded to make it sit lower and rear manifold has been modded to fit the turbo in (its either that or mod the firewall if you want twin) Also fans moved to the front of the radiator. Goes very well - will light up a front wheel if you floor it at pretty much any speed. Would still like to see it Manual with an LSD.

Heres a pic

Personally Im looking at going single turbo on my GPX engine to see what happens.

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:39 am

JayME wrote: Would still like to see it Manual with an LSD.
Personally Im looking at going single turbo on my GPX engine to see what happens.

Dannyboyau's is 6A13 single turbo with manual, not sure if its got LSD though.

Post by **I8A4RE** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:59 am

Thats what me wants.

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:18 pm

Well let me give you a head up then.

Dannyboyau is a very knowledgeable mechanic, he gets most of his parts at trade prices and of course labor is either free or few cans of beer for his mate

Jeff from QLD also had done the samething. Originally started off as a 4spd tip, but no one can actually get it to run with the 6A13T properly, so with Dannyboyau help, he end up getting a manual box. I remember he said that who ever planning to do the same thing, DON'T.

Now how deep is your pocket I8AFRE? And the most important thing, how much patient have you got?

RedlineGX · Post by **RedlineGX** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:27 pm

I turbocharged my FTO didnt cost me as much as $5000

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:34 pm

Don't go there again Redline, we been through this little excise before.

Post by **I8A4RE** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:18 am

Well to be honest money is not an issue my patience is though. i dont want to be pissing around with stuff that hasnt been tried tested and easily available.

My number 1 priority is maximum power (dont care about top speed just how quick it gets there) and TO KEEP THE TIP. otherwise might as well go buy a supra skyline etc.

How much power do u think could be achieved from my engine keeping it n/a

Liquidity · Post by **Liquidity** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:12 am

the problem with n/a is, the more power you make, the higher up the rev band it needs to be (from my understanding, a n/a engine is a pump, air in air out) and the less "streetable" it is.

This is also why i'd consider supercharging. Even 2-3psi can make a big difference to driveability and big differences to torque, without breaking the bank *or* your car.

FTO AUSTRALIA

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