FTO Vs Holdens etc

bradlovell · Post by **bradlovell** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:12 am

Was wondering if anyone knew what would win if a FTO GPX raced a holden commodore ute! standard ute say a 2000 model? Or a Ford ute?

Breza · Post by **Breza** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:11 pm

Was wondering if anyone knew what would win if a FTO GPX raced a holden commodore ute! standard ute say a 2000 model? Or a Ford ute?"

Have driven both a manual GPX and a manual S Pack Common Ute........

In a straight line from a standing start the FTO has no hope.

But how many good roads are straight?

Cheers

Chris

Post by **dstocks** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:40 pm

In a straight line from a standing start the FTO has no hope.

Is the S Pack a V6 or a V8?. If it is a six, I disagree.

I have had some fun with a late model Holden ute approaching the Clide on the way to Batemans Bay. Youll loose them on corners. On relatively straight roads, they wont catch you, but neither will you loose them.

I have a tip with a few minor intake mods.

If its a V8 forget it.

Post by **Supplanter** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:08 pm

I have never had a problem with V6 Commodores and Falcons, even a couple of supercharged SV6s... is there really that much weight difference between the sedan and ute?

Rocco · Post by **Rocco** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:58 pm

i know the newer model utes r heavier than the sedans i.e Maloo 4 example

bigpitty1 · Post by **bigpitty1** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:18 am

I don't, I've taken my FTO against a VT SS down the strip, and beaten it, funny he had me off the line...If it is a 6 you should have no problem beating it.

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:58 am

2000 model V8 is a Gen 3 so no hope! A V6 really depends. 2000 Model ford are crap so you should give it a good run for its money but really depends on conditions.

bigpitty1 · Post by **bigpitty1** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:39 am

I wouldn't say a GEN 3 is a no hope, a few mods and you should be able to beat them.

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:14 pm

thats cos they probably aren't taking u seriously and giving it half throttle...dunno why we keep insisting on working out which car we will beat etc...if u wanted a fast car for 15k but an R33 and be done with it...with mine I can easily beat them all! hehe but not in my FTO...7s FWD is no match for a 6s rwd car..unless its wet

For everyone here is some numbers!!! heheh

VT Aclaim - 0-100 km/h in 9.8s << FTO
VS Aclaim - 0-100 km/h in ~9s << FTO

Now for the V8s
VX SS - 0-100 - 6.5 ==FTO with some mods
VY SS - 0-100 - 5.9 >> FTO for sure
VZ SS - 0-100 - 5.8 >> FTO for sure

BA XR8 - 6.4s
BA XR6 turbo ~ 6.4s also
BA XR6 non-turbo - 7.4s!!

Remember these figures were collected from diffreent sources but its fairly obvious an FTO is "up-there" on paper. You can't expect to be beating a full sik V8 SS..looks like the older ones we might though!!

ALso Holden has a bad rep for producing crap figures latley...so they might be a little worse than this.

But for a stock commie/falcon...give it a go...looks like u will win!!! as long as u can get FTO up in the revs u have no dramas.

KJ

Jase · Post by **Jase** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:14 pm

Mines a gr with filter, extractors and exhaust. It couldn't pull the skin off a chicken. Looks good, and keeps my license in my wallet. What more could you want?
Every once in a while i threaten to sell it because it is so bloody slow but 5k down the road and i'm content again.

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:18 pm

when i'm in that mood I jump in the R33 and take it for a spin...boost it up a bit..maybe to 0.7bar and there we go...then I'm over it and the FTO is cool again!

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:47 am

well i have an Auto GR and i cannot get any Holden/Ford 6 off the line. They usually get a car length on me before i level off.

If we boot it at 80 i'll have two car lengths on them when we hit 140.

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:55 am

theres the problem every Ford Falcon sold today comes with 190KW and almost 400NM of torque at least!

"But for a stock commie/falcon...give it a go...looks like u will win!!! as long as u can get FTO up in the revs u have no dramas. "

There is also i problem for me! The FTO is a peaky engine so i have to wait for 6000-7000rpm before im getting decent power from the thing! By this time the aussie cars are already ahead! I dunno if i have a dud or not but i sort of expect it as these cars have double the capacity of my car.

SchumieFan · Post by **SchumieFan** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:39 am

peak is at 4400rpm isnt it? and then you have mivec

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:09 pm

payaya wrote:theres the problem every Ford Falcon sold today comes with 190KW and almost 400NM of torque at least!

"But for a stock commie/falcon...give it a go...looks like u will win!!! as long as u can get FTO up in the revs u have no dramas. "

There is also i problem for me! The FTO is a peaky engine so i have to wait for 6000-7000rpm before im getting decent power from the thing! By this time the aussie cars are already ahead! I dunno if i have a dud or not but i sort of expect it as these cars have double the capacity of my car.

all taken into consideration over a 0-100 drag....u probably wont win off the line..but up to 70-80 u will be looking nice...then off u go!

The times above are from the specs...there are a good inidication.

AJ · Post by AJ » Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:07 pm

khunjeng wrote:all taken into consideration over a 0-100 drag....u probably wont win off the line..but up to 70-80 u will be looking nice...then off u go!

I agree. I often travel on the toll roads in sydney and you have to slow to from 110kmph to 70 then once past the toll point you can gun it back up to 110 again, I never have a problem holding off the big fords and holdens then

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:56 pm

i was taken bad by an old celica...not a gt4 or wotever...it took me so hard from the lights...heheh I feel so sad

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:58 pm

SchumieFan wrote:peak is at 4400rpm isnt it? and then you have mivec

No.. I have a Manual GR and the peak for me is 6600 (correct me if I'm wrong here), the boost from the V6 kicks in at around 3500-4000rpm and I wait till 6600 approx to put it into 2nd gear.
That's when im flooring it that is

BuCkEt · Post by **BuCkEt** » Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:25 pm

My FTO has no problems against V6 Commodores.

The older model ones at least. Always a good laugh when the look on their faces says "I just got beaten by a hairdresser's car."