Accident

fto_gurl · Post by **fto_gurl** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:38 pm

Hi,

Ok so driving today at 60km/ph and all of a sudden my front wheels locked up (no brakes pushed what so ever) my car just slid for about 3 metres which then caused some guy to run up my arse. So one my car has been rear ended and two can anyone tell me why the hell my wheels would just lock up like that without anyone touching the brakes. Reason I know the brakes weren't touched was a witness on the road said they didn't see brake lights and the driver behind said that they didn't see brake lights and this is why he hit me. So yea if you can give me ANY insight as to why my car has done this to me please do as I am pretty devasted and would like to know if it can be fixed and if anyone has heard of an FTO doing this before.

Cheers,

Faye.

Rocco · Post by **Rocco** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:22 am

What a wierd thing to happen

bobz · Post by **bobz** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:22 am

Caliper failure

Wheel bearing failure

BobZ

mrx · Post by **mrx** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:16 am

Was the engine still running? Was it still locked on afterwards/now?

Very, very odd....

scarecrow · Post by **scarecrow** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:09 am

That is really wierd!

i second what's already been asked, where they locked up afterwards, and do you know if your engine stalled *before* it happened? Tip or manual? Do you ABS or traction control?

If here cars still a bit drivable then check out the brakes (at low speed of course, maybe just a roll) and the handbreak etc, try to get someone to check the lights for you.

fto_gurl · Post by **fto_gurl** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:19 pm

Nope after the accident car was fine, it didn't cut out at all at any stage. The engine was still idling perfectly and it still moved of the road fine. It was all to do with the wheels I am suspecting cause the car started fine and everything as well after it, it is a 94 gr tip. So if still no clues i'll let u all know once the mechanics report is in. And u will get some pretty pictures of my poor little girl...

dimi · Post by **dimi** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:24 pm

My fto is tip / auto. One time when it was having a service,after they had completed the service and were backing the car out of the workshop the car just stopped.

I mean they were driving it out and then it just fully locked up and decided not too move. what had happened was the one of the rear tailights was shorting, this was sending some sort of message to the computer/tip box to put the car into another gear (all of a sudden like park or reverse even. The mechanics had mentioned that it was lucky that it had happened in the workshop cause their was a chance that i could have been driving and then all of a sudden rear tailight short, tip thinks its suppossed to changed to park or reverse (one of the 2, im thanks it was park) and the car would just lock up.

So yeah, my advice based on this story would be when fixing the car get them to look over ALL the electrics.

BTW sorry to hear about your car, it sucks

, just remeber cars can be fixed humans can't, so yeah dont be tooo down.

SchumieFan · Post by **SchumieFan** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 2:38 pm

that is odd, up untill the point you said your car ran fine afer i would have said the diff had crapped out, was it definatly a front wheel lock or a rear wheel lock? both side wheels?
was it wet?
errrrrrm

cv joint? bearings?
if its both sides that locked up it could be electrical?
did the engine cut out at all? any funny sounds or noises before or during?

if you were doing 60k's and it only slid 3m id say it wasnt a lock up.

odd, very odd

fto_gurl · Post by **fto_gurl** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:17 pm

Yea it wasn't wet or anything. Nothing out of the ordinary was going on at all, just under normal driving conditions. It was a front wheel cause the guy nehind who hit said that all he saw was the smoke coming off the front wheels. Just had a new cv joint put on one of them cause it was worn do not know about bearings. It's all good it will be discovered sooner than later including the bill!! LOL!! Thanks for all your help!!

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:57 am

really who cares the guy was too close to you, and it was his fault he rear ended you.

paladin · Post by **paladin** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:57 am

by any chance was it wet and where you useing cruse controll?

bigpitty1 · Post by **bigpitty1** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:18 pm

well if it has only happened to a tip, I might just add this in...I think what happen is that the tip/auto gearbox engaged 2 gears at the same time, this will cause the gearbox to lock up which will them lock up the wheels, like 3rd and 4th gear at the same time.

jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:22 am

going back to your L license, no.1 rule is leave enough braking distance for the car infront of you to emergency stop, so that guy was in the wrong for rear ending u

SchumieFan · Post by **SchumieFan** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:45 am

bigpitty1 wrote:well if it has only happened to a tip, I might just add this in...I think what happen is that the tip/auto gearbox engaged 2 gears at the same time, this will cause the gearbox to lock up which will them lock up the wheels, like 3rd and 4th gear at the same time.

ok thats physically impossible

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:07 pm

its not the person who ran up your asses fault, its your fault because the car was faulty, and there is a witness to say that the break lights didnt work

SchumieFan · Post by **SchumieFan** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:46 pm

well she didnt brake, so of course the brake lights didnt work.

it doesnt matter how/why someone hit you from behind, if they hit you from behind it means they were following too closely to stop in time and avoid an accident. its automatically their fault. sad but true

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 4:56 pm

This is sort of correct, I am not lawyer, but the person who hit you, can file for comparative negligence. which will reduce the amount you are payed to repair your car. Quote http://www.nolo.com/article.cfm/objectI ... 9/255/ART/

Keep in mind, however, that even if you have been rear-ended, in a few circumstances your own carelessness may reduce your compensation under the rule of "comparative negligence." A common example is when one or both of your brake or tail lights were out, especially if the accident happened at night

SchumieFan · Post by **SchumieFan** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:14 pm

yeah but this had nothing to do with brake light failure, it was a mechanical problem, theres no negligence on her part because she could not control the problem, and then she was hit from the rear by someone who was too close to avoid an accident.

"dont be a feeeeeeeeuuuuuuuulllllllll obey the 2 second ruuuuuuullllllleeeeeeeeee" or however brocky says it

Spud · Post by **Spud** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:23 pm

Yep he was too close fto_gurl, you have nothing to worry about.

Is he fighting the issue with you?

bigpitty1 · Post by **bigpitty1** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:05 pm

SchumieFan wrote:
bigpitty1 wrote:well if it has only happened to a tip, I might just add this in...I think what happen is that the tip/auto gearbox engaged 2 gears at the same time, this will cause the gearbox to lock up which will them lock up the wheels, like 3rd and 4th gear at the same time.
ok thats physically impossible

It's not physically impossible, with automatic gearboxes they acctually with have 2 gears engaged, when it shifts to the next gear one gear will slowly disengage and the next gear will start to engage, this is so the gear will change smooth...there might of been a glitch in the ECU, solinoids or some thing causing both gears to engage.