wheel spin problem when redline

hnm738 · Post by **hnm738** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:31 am

hi there

do you guys get a lot of wheelspin when changing from 1st to second when you are redlining the 1st gear?

apparantly everytime i did that the car would wheelspn badly and it seems to bounce and jumps and makes loud noise like the cars gound to fall apart

my tires are potenza 3 on 16" rims and still lots of treads

how do i fix this problem?

thanks

dj_ules · Post by **dj_ules** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:30 am

lolllllllllllllll mine does the same.. but its only cos your floggin it. u drive manual? have u recently had your clutch done or anything? but its only cos your droppn your clutch from 1st to 2nd it doesit.

Post by **Bennoz** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:01 pm

Erm yes. Driver education required! You dont have to dump the clutch when in a hurry.... you're entering busted driveshaft territory

hnm738 · Post by **hnm738** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:49 am

the cars got heavy duty clutch

and i havent had much experience with manual car,

i have never actually red line 2nd gear so i would know if that would happen going to third.....

soo how do you drive fast??

do you just wait till the revs drop to 5000rpm then let go of the clutch???

thanks for your input guys

BuCkEt · Post by **BuCkEt** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:11 am

What exactly is 'dropping the clutch'??

I think it's when you just let go of the clutch from the floor and let it bounce back up?

As for my 1st - 2nd gear change at redline, by the time I've put the clutch in, moved the shifter down and then re-engaged the clutch my RPM has dropped down to about 5k. Keeping it in MIVEC while doing this change is always a bit tricky.

Post by **Bennoz** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:42 am

Dropping the clutch is revving its tits off then just completely releasing the clutch in a hurry - ie dont even let you foot come up with the pedal, just take your foot off altogether very quickly. Usually results in a whole bunch of wheel spin.

To avoid the spin just release your foot off the pedal a little slower - feel the clutch plate engage to its friction point. I too have a heavy clutch (750kg pressure plate & sintered clutch disc) & I have no issue with wheelspin..... If I dont want it that is. Redlining second & smashing it into third will also see a slight wheelspin if you've got the power, but again it can be avoided by correct clutch technique. If you are a boy racer taking on kids with shopping lists on their doors, you WILL be quicker without the wheelspin. It just wastes time & tyre tread - also less than freindly for your gearbox cogs & mainshaft. Also that shudder you speak of - sounds to me like your shocks are shot. Get them replaced it will smoke up without the cavatation.

dj_ules · Post by **dj_ules** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:16 pm

muahaha only got 400$ to save and my teins are coming .muahahahahahaha so i mightaswell kill what i have in my suspension ..

sorry. im just excited

SG · Post by SG » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:35 pm

if you get axle / wheel tramp when you drop the clutch in 2nd at high revs, try getting a semi-solid front engine mount... a polyeurathane one, forgot how u spell it...

anti lift kit and having the front end lowered more than the backend help against wheel spin aswell

hnm738 · Post by **hnm738** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:29 pm

thanks for the info will try do what i can,

would adjusting the firmness of the front suspension help?

at the moment it is set to softest and rear 3/4 firm...

SG · Post by SG » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:00 pm

i think at the drags RWD cars put the rear suspension on as stiff as possible and the front on as soft as possible so the rear doesnt squat down on acceleration and there is give in the front to lift up a bit and grip but not lose grip due to lifting up too much (higher than the rear of the car).. or is that FWD...

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:46 pm

thats fwd drag cars, rwd cards get more grip if they are beeing pushed down on the rear tyres.
with regards to the original post, learn to drive, fwd + power takes a little bit of getting used to. if you are controlling the clutch properly, and wheel spinning starts at redline, does it really matter, you need to change gears anyway

hnm738 · Post by **hnm738** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:18 pm

yeah definitely have to change gear at that point

but what im wanting to know is how to solve that problem

because if you wheel spin basically that is slowing you down because for a moment the car isnt griping and isnt moving forward fast as it should be...

Post by **Bennoz** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:22 pm

Thought of a tyre upgrade?

hnm738 · Post by **hnm738** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:26 am

what tyres do you suggest?

i have had goodyear f1

faulken 326

and not on potenza3

they all very similar? do you think changing to 17 inch would make a difference? and changing suspension firmness also?

jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:20 am

guys i thought id add that i get the wheel spin jerk in my tip when redline it in 1st changing to 2nd

hnm738 · Post by **hnm738** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:13 pm

i had a tip once, had goodyear f1 and that solve the wheelspin on the auto

AJ · Post by AJ » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:43 pm

Never spun my tip changing from 1st to 2nd (on tarmac). I have 17's with goodyear F1's and lowered all around.

Post by **Bennoz** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:01 pm

Sounds like someone needs NOS!

AJ · Post by AJ » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:58 pm

Bennoz wrote:Sounds like someone needs NOS!

I wish, but Mrs AJ says no no

khunjeng · Post by **khunjeng** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:18 pm

ya I think with the tip the tyres gonna make all the difference.. I get a bit of spin...only slight...from a launch...but I know my tyres arn't the best..