Clutch replacment!

paladin · Post by **paladin** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:01 pm

Hi fellas
quick question, anyone swaped a clutch yet? how much did it cost and is there much point in uprating hte clutch?

i have noticed my car has slowed down a fair bit and my gtech confirmed this when i am runing to the 100 in about 9 seconds! this is rediculas for a manuel! i am pretty sure it is my clutch letting go because if i drop it from high revs theres some strang reving where the revs remain high but hte speed dosnt rise much untill it levels out at a lower rpm (less touqure?) and then catches and accelerates again!

MrFT000 · Post by **MrFT000** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:06 pm

you sure it aint the driver Dave???

EURO · Post by **EURO** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:11 am

i changed my clutch..

My bearing was really noisy when it was out and it was taking forever for the car to engage - e.g. when i was releasing the clutch, the take up point was lengthening.

I upgraded mine to a heavy duty daiken clutch. It was weird a first, bit to full on but after a few weeks its been much better. was approximately $700 fitted?

i was told any heavier then the one i had fitted would just cause lots of wheel spin in a fwd car.

MrFT000 · Post by **MrFT000** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:25 am

http://www.perfectrun.com.au/real_size_ ... clutch.htm

The metal, with the cover, looking at around $480 + delivery.

Then you've got labour on top of that.

EURO · Post by **EURO** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:27 pm

yep - I think my mechanic factored in four hours labour to change the clutch from memory. Remember also they may need to machine the flywheel and I know they changed my gearbox oil etc at the same time - i think that all gets dismantled when they replace the clutch

onnzo · Post by **onnzo** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:23 pm

Clutch jobs require the removal of the gearbox. I would budget at least $300 for a FWD clutch change. Then you add oils/misc parts etc on top of that.

paladin · Post by **paladin** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:33 pm

FUCKIN!!

i called jakes in canberra and they think it will cost me about 800-1000 in labour alone!!

EURO any chance i could grab the name of your mech? i have a granny in melb and i wouldnt mind the drive / save about 500 odd $!

paladin · Post by **paladin** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:35 pm

i am pretty good with mechanical isntructiosn etc having wokred on a alfa romeo and a exa a lot, i was woudnering if maybe soemone coudl write up how to do it? or maybe i would be the first?

MrFT000 · Post by **MrFT000** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:40 pm

i personally wouldnt be stuffin around with the clutch.

Its a big job, and im sure if you f**k it up, you might f**k up a lot of other things in the process..

Its hard for a mechanic to throw just a figure out there for a clutch, because certain cars need more attention than others. So in that quote, they might throw in some 'fat' to cover stuff which is most likely going to need attention.

paladin · Post by **paladin** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:44 pm

nah unfortunetly they used a quote from a previus job :/
looks like a trip to melb
FFI offered to do teh job for 1k which is pretty good though because they included a fly wheel too, but i dotn have a credit card/ jsut a bit short :/

onnzo · Post by **onnzo** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:09 pm

A manual FWD clutch job isnt too hard to do. If you have a workshop manual and a decent mechanical knowledge it shouldnt be too hard. Just watch out transmissions are heavy!

I used to be able to do a clutch job in about 2 hours on my fwd lancer. It is a tough job though and I did have experience on my side as I did do it about 5 times!

If you dont know much about cars, I would suggest you steer clear of a clutch job!

EURO · Post by **EURO** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:18 am

I used Genesis in Blackburn (same workshop that turbo charged Mikeys FTO).

There is no reason they cannot give you a direct quote - if they have worked on FTO's before.

I dont remember the exact price - I think it was about $750 for the job (clutch and fittment - four hours labour), but I should add that you then need to pay for gearbox oil and i cant remember if machining the flywheel was on top of that or part of the orignal quote.

I know that SL motorsports offered me a pretty similar quote. Having said that I could also have used a cheaper clutch - so it depends on what you go for.

range could be anywhere from $650 + and then well over a grand if you want to use a very expensive clutch. The main thing you should find out is how many hours of labour the mechanics quote. from my understanding it shouldnt be anymore then 4-5

onnzo · Post by **onnzo** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 9:43 pm

Machining the flywheel only costs about $25 at a brake and clutch store

spetz · Post by **spetz** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:36 am

I have a Daiken Exedy heavy duty clutch.
It's quite heavy compared to a standard clutch but honestly within 2 days you get used to it and driving another car just feels like it has a featherlight clutch.

It's quite good, heaps of grip and I can still sidestep the clutch for hard launches. Also it's quite progressive and smooth gearchanges are easy without slipping it or hard knocks.
Though one problem I found with it is say you came to near enough a complete stop at the lights but then need to take off and because I never put in 1st while the car is moving even a bit I take off in 2nd slipping the clutch and it kinda shudders the car.
Also has vibrations at the clutch pedal but I am hoping to get that all fixed (might be flywheel or just needs a balance).

akuma3 · Post by **akuma3** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:05 pm

got mine done half a year ago, $650 semi-heavy ... got a weird problem now thought, is it normal because i don't know ...

everytime i drop my clutch or change gear, 1st & 2nd very easy to notice, the car bounces softly before it get into the gear in other words of not smooth ... or how should i explain it ... arr ... it doesn't do it when i put into gear slowly

other problem i have is fusion point is so damn high i hate it and they say they cant adjust because of hydraulic clutch is it true?

devil2004 · Post by **devil2004** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:16 pm

Paladin, if your interested. I'm sure you can get it done in Sydney for around 1K. I got a heavy duty clutch installed, machined flywheel and all fluids included for a little over 1100. They quoted me $1300 for a sports organic clutch which they said has 60% more compression than standard.

devil2004 · Post by **devil2004** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:18 pm

btw, it takes almost a day to get the job done properly....

dj_ules · Post by **dj_ules** » Mon May 16, 2005 3:18 am

akuma3 wrote:got mine done half a year ago, $650 semi-heavy ... got a weird problem now thought, is it normal because i don't know ...

everytime i drop my clutch or change gear, 1st & 2nd very easy to notice, the car bounces softly before it get into the gear in other words of not smooth ... or how should i explain it ... arr ... it doesn't do it when i put into gear slowly

other problem i have is fusion point is so damn high i hate it and they say they cant adjust because of hydraulic clutch is it true?

yeah i got my clutch replaced about 7 months ago.. and its doin the same thing to mine .. its like its goin over a serious of bumps when changin gears. dunno if the wheels r spinning but the whole fron just shakes lol

akuma3 · Post by **akuma3** » Sat May 21, 2005 2:52 pm

dj_ules wrote:
akuma3 wrote:got mine done half a year ago, $650 semi-heavy ... got a weird problem now thought, is it normal because i don't know ...

everytime i drop my clutch or change gear, 1st & 2nd very easy to notice, the car bounces softly before it get into the gear in other words of not smooth ... or how should i explain it ... arr ... it doesn't do it when i put into gear slowly

other problem i have is fusion point is so damn high i hate it and they say they cant adjust because of hydraulic clutch is it true?

yeah i got my clutch replaced about 7 months ago.. and its doin the same thing to mine .. its like its goin over a serious of bumps when changin gears. dunno if the wheels r spinning but the whole fron just shakes lol

well i went to another mechanic shop and they say it's the guy didn't fit the clutch probably, something is blending or something ... now i'm piss

DarkRain · Post by **DarkRain** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:04 am

I was quoted $850 for a Exedy Heavy Duty clutch at IS Motorsports at Rockdale. This is the full price including installation. The clutch provides an increase of about 50% clamping force. I reckon thats a very good price but have not get mine done yet cos no $$$.. These guys were featured in the Autosalon Magazine (ASM) when they changed their clutch to Exedy Hyper Single Plate in their S2K.

By the way, Exedy Hyper Single (which includes lightened flywheel) is not available for the FTO. Not even the ceramics clutch (Sports Tuff), just the standard and heavy duty ones.