What suspension package do u run?

JSP-INC · Post by **JSP-INC** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:59 pm

Hey guys i'm looking at getting new shocks & springs.
Currently i'm running apexi gt's on Pedders shocks.

I was looking at changing to Koni shocks and perhaps eibach springs... i don't really want to go the king springs as i have had problems with them with my previous car (lancer)..

What do you all have as your suspension package?

HiRAEdd · Post by **HiRAEdd** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:56 pm

Lowered King Springs and Koni adjustables (on-car on front, off-car on back). It's a sweet, sweet ride

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:26 pm

KYB adjustable shock & spring all round, not the best i must said.

SilentBob · Post by **SilentBob** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:37 pm

Cusco Coil-Overs...

SilentBob

WILL · Post by **WILL** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:42 pm

Tein HA

JSP-INC · Post by **JSP-INC** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:11 am

hey bro how much did the TEIN HA's cost you???? is it a bumpy ride?

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:41 am

To state the obvious, but often over looked point, all these different brands and types of suspension will have different spring rates, each of which will offer different handling and a different level of comfort.

It's important that you choose the suspension based on the spring rate you require for your driving needs not simply based upon what others use, as their requirements may be different to yours.

Unfortunately most people buy suspension on the way it makes the car look and price without giving any consideration to probably the most important point: the spring rate.

Jono · Post by **Jono** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:22 am

Teins will give u a bumpy ride if the car is lowered too much. You need to give it some stroke room and then it will not be as bumpy.

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:36 pm

ruchi wrote:To state the obvious, but often over looked point, all these different brands and types of suspension will have different spring rates, each of which will offer different handling and a different level of comfort.

It's important that you choose the suspension based on the spring rate you require for your driving needs not simply based upon what others use, as their requirements may be different to yours.

Unfortunately most people buy suspension on the way it makes the car look and price without giving any consideration to probably the most important point: the spring rate.

Thats why theres adjustable springrate & height suspension on the market

salacious · Post by **salacious** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 1:41 pm

Cusco Zero 2 and Tein HA on the two FTOs

HiRAEdd · Post by **HiRAEdd** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 2:55 pm

I guess further to Ruchi's comments, the best thing to do is find a reputable dealer and tell them what you want to achieve. My criteria to the company who fitted mine was I want to remove the knocking noises I had and soften the ride a little bit even if that came at the expense of a little bit of handling. Mine was ultra low and very hard. I got excellent advice and what I got back was slightly higher but still low with adjustable shocks pre-adjusted to what they thought I would like. And I'm extremely pleased with the results. The car is many times nicer to drive now, a more pleasurable experience with very little loss of handling.

JSP-INC · Post by **JSP-INC** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:03 pm

ruchi wrote:To state the obvious, but often over looked point, all these different brands and types of suspension will have different spring rates, each of which will offer different handling and a different level of comfort.

It's important that you choose the suspension based on the spring rate you require for your driving needs not simply based upon what others use, as their requirements may be different to yours.

Unfortunately most people buy suspension on the way it makes the car look and price without giving any consideration to probably the most important point: the spring rate.

I'm well aware of spring rates but it's not even just about that, it's shocks and springs which match well together but i'm not sure what combinations are used with the FTO's.

I'm looking for a comfortable ride and not an teeth splitting ride that i have right now.... Hence the question to WILL about whether the TEIN's are bumpy.. ie track use etc...

U have to match your Spring rate with your shocks when it comes to suspension..

D-TRAIN · Post by **D-TRAIN** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:40 pm

The other thing you may want to consider is serviceability.

You'd be hard-pressed to find places that will service Cusco or Teins.

But if you intend to sell the car before they require servicing, then that's another story.

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:24 am

JSP-INC wrote:i'm not sure what combinations are used with the FTO's.

From memory, as standard, the FTO has 2.6kg/mm front and 1.6kg/mm on the rear.

JSP-INC wrote:U have to match your Spring rate with your shocks when it comes to suspension..

Otherway around... you should match your shocks to the rating and length of the springs. Work out the springs first, shocks second, but you are right that they must compliment each other so as to work together properly.

My personal preference is a progressive rate spring, that way they give you the comfort when you need it and the performance when you go hard.

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:19 am

ruchi wrote: My personal preference is a progressive rate spring, that way they give you the comfort when you need it and the performance when you go hard.

So what you got on yours ruchi?

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:42 am

It's stock, I haven't changed the suspension yet.

On the last car I modded, I had progressive rate eibach springs matched with koni adjustable shocks. It was very nice.

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:27 am

ruchi wrote:It's stock, I haven't changed the suspension yet.

On the last car I modded, I had progressive rate eibach springs matched with koni adjustable shocks. It was very nice.

On the 84 Celica yeah? (or was it 86??) If you use that setup on a FTO, it would be fair to say it would give you a totally different feel & ride, due to different chassis & power output.

I've use a different type of suspension on all my previous cars & current, due to the above reason.

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:01 am

Correct, you must do each car individually, but you can still use the same type of equipment on each. i.e. they can all have the same type of suspension if you have a preference for a particular type (e.g. progessive rate, coil overs etc.) but each car will need different versions of this, which may include different brands.

We're beginning to drift a little off track. In short, pick the springs first using the stock rates as the baseline, choose the new rate and height and then get the shocks to match.

d_stroy_r · Post by **d_stroy_r** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:01 pm

My suspension:
Challenger Ennepetral suspension kit
Bilstein Damper (screw type)
Cusco pyro upper mount
Bestex front spring (13k)
Bestex rear spring (7k)
D-Cuatro strut tower bar (front)
Spats strut tower bar (rear)
Ralli Art Engine Mount bushes

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:16 pm

hmmm this post remind me of the post at the start of the yr.

http://www.ftoaustralia.com/modules.php ... e&start=20