5spd manual gearboxes

sickest_wog · Post by **sickest_wog** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:56 am

hello, my names pete i onyl just recently joined the forum, john pellington told me about it,. i just bought a 5spd 95 model black GPX FTO, now the gearboxes in it doesnt feel very nice, seems stiff into gear's especially fwhen selecting first when almost comming to a complete stop...my friend has a white one and hes sychroes have stuffed up in 3 gearboxes, 1st gear synchro and changing from 2nd to 3rd at high rev's. he reckons its due to the design of the fto gearbox not allowing the fluid to flow through properly...is this true? ive been advised to change the gearbox oil with the reline product ($30 per ltr) and this would make it smoother. dont really want a new car and have to replace the box in a few months!! just seeing what other 5spd owners have encountered? also is the Magna/galant 5spd boxes interchangable? im guessing theyd b very similar...perhaps u couldnt use the magna/galant gearsets with the fto diff and crown gear? an interesting thought...t

pete

HiRAEdd · Post by **HiRAEdd** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:05 am

Mine sounds about the same, going into first is quite stiff, I just assumed it is how the gear box is. *shrug*

Post by **smorison** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:52 am

you can't swap the gearboxes on the MIVEC with gearboxes from NON-MIVEC cars... there are sensors in there that work with the MIVEC soleniods...

the redline stuff is fantastic and i throughly recommend (and use it)... the manual only takes a 1.5-2 litres so its not like having to fill up my tip which uses 4l @ 30/litre...

syncro's can be replaced however its an expensive process... the redline oil generally helps with syncro issues and you should try that first....

Adriano · Post by **Adriano** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:51 am

ive always thought changing from 2nd to 1st when stopping would always be difficult....

as for the stiff gear changes, have a look at this, could be something as minor as this...

http://www.ftowa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=111

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:56 am

Redline stuff is great try that first
1st gear is only ment to be for taking off, i know its difficult to accelerate in 2nd gear down low but you really should not be selecting 1st
I am told you can buy kits to rebuild a gear box, and I am currently looking at doing this with mine in the near future, i cannot see why you cannot use a kit from the galant though.
I dont have too much trouble selecting gears. I find that depending on your revs the clutch needs to be engaged a lot more. so i usually shift at around 6k, but when I wanna give it some and shift at 8 i usually get a huge crunch cause i havent put the clutch in enough. however my problem is with the gearbox feeling very squishy, and my syncros do feel a bit out from 1st to 2nd and to 3rd so i will look into doing this in around 6 months time (we will see how the gearbox goes on the track first).
but basically give that redline stuff ago it will definitly improve your gearbox (do it soon instead of later so you do not damage your gearbox more)

sxcfto · Post by **sxcfto** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:12 pm

Here's a great link on Gearboxes

http://www.ntahc.org/techtips/Gear%20Box%20Lub%20R1.htm

Jono · Post by **Jono** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:26 pm

if you want to try something different,

Catrol Syntrax....
im using it at the moment, and im pretty happy with it

paladin · Post by **paladin** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:14 pm

my gear boxs is always stiff as hell when cold
but if i warm the car up it springs around just perfectly.

going into first is near imposible unless your stopped in mien too
i think its to protecthe car, ie like how you cant go from 5th to 6th

sickest_wog · Post by **sickest_wog** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:24 pm

can all 5spd owners verify this? the interior is a bit rough and there is 3 pin head spots of rust on the roof...what do u'se think?

DZYRME · Post by **DZYRME** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:14 pm

sickest_wog wrote:can all 5spd owners verify this? the interior is a bit rough and there is 3 pin head spots of rust on the roof...what do u'se think?
heres a pic of the rust.. :

I dont think that rust has anything to do with your gearbox.

SilentBob · Post by **SilentBob** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:55 pm

DZYRME wrote:
sickest_wog wrote:can all 5spd owners verify this? the interior is a bit rough and there is 3 pin head spots of rust on the roof...what do u'se think?
heres a pic of the rust.. :

I dont think that rust has anything to do with your gearbox.

but i do think he should get a better digicam than a Sony DSCP43
*chuckles*
(at least, i think its a dscp43.....tell me if im right

.... you know your bored when you do what i did to work that out

)

SilentBob

sickest_wog · Post by **sickest_wog** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:31 am

ahah its my mates digi ive got a cannon much better camera

nah i know the rust has nothing to do with the box but its a major problem too, i havent actually given the guy the money yet...and i dont think i will...gearbox/rust/shotty interior only thing good is the exterior..

Post by **smorison** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:35 am

if you have rust in the roof... you have two options

1 ..... soft top

2 ..... take it to a panel beater and have it repaired / resprayed

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:56 pm

man this thread has gone from gearbox problems to body rust to digicam LoL...

(you know brendan, there's this thing called SPLIT POST, it's really cool... you get to split a thread into two and sh*t

)

LoL..

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:42 pm

back to gearbox has anyone got a busted 5 speed manual box or know where one is.

sickest_wog · Post by **sickest_wog** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:40 pm

search is still on...anyone selling a black 5spd mivec? LOL

Paddyman · Post by **Paddyman** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:08 am

I believe that there is only one type of manual box fitted to all models of FTO and the GR box will fit the GPX etc (5M42).

Correct me if I am wrong

salacious · Post by **salacious** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:30 pm

It is the same box that is on all manual FTOs but you do get slight differences. I think this is down to if it has LSD, driveshaft diameter (GPX is slightly wider) and the length driveshaft that goes into the gearbox.

I know of at least 5 variations of the manual gearbox