Engine Convertsion vs Fix Oil Leak

[illmotion]

That a evo 6 - 7 engine conversion from what the mechanic said, but no chance I am spending that much haha that just crazy.

But yeah always been fond of Bennoz beast saw it on YouTube and that was one of the reasons that made me get a fto haha

[aza013]

Hi Steven,

there are a range of options to install an evo engine into your FTO. For starters i would be purchasing an evo 6 or evo 7
engine and mating it to the FTO gearbox, maybe a different bellhousing will need to be purchased but i wont be able to
tell until i have all parts in front of me, not a drama anyway. The Best way to do it would be to put an aftermarket ECU on
the car while in the process of the conversion as it simplifies the wiring and you don't have messy pieces of harness bunched
up that where once used when the engine was in the ecu, then the intercooler, exhaust, mounting, fuel system etc. Then
you will be out the door with a very fast FTO that you can stick on the dyno at any time.

A rough estimate would go as follows

engine $3000
exhaust $2000
intercooler and piping $1500
fuel system $600
ecu $2300
wiring $1500
mounting, additional misc $1000

This is allowing stainless steel exhaust and intercooler pipes to be fabricated including dump pipe and catalytic convertor,
ecu would be the latest model haltech and all other pieces and components would be top quality, we are in the habit of
building cars right the first time and don't take short cuts.

I hope this answers your question and if there is anything I can answer for you don't hesitate to contact me in the future.


Kind Regards

Michael

You know that sounds ok. If it is a fixed drive away price I would go for it.

[illmotion]

If that was a fixed price but it a rough estimate so prices could vary lower or higher.

[silverGPX]

Laugh if it was a tappet cover leak

[Rob Furniss]

Prices don't seem too bad for a garage doing all the work.
You considered fixing it and going down the turbo or supercharger route? just a thought.

[Bennoz]

I don't understand how this thread got so absurdly out of hand lol.

Has anyone though to ask where the oil leak was coming from in the first place? Some pics for us to diagnose even?

For all you know, it might be a $2 dollar part that needs replacing!

[illmotion]

I have check the turbo posts on here as they all seem pretty expensive as well haha espcially when my car is mivec.


Regarding oil leak it everywhere I wouldn't know what to take a photo off lol, rob would you have any ideas about oil leaks? Since you live in WA could get you to check it out before I go ahead with the fix?

When I got quoted they said something along with lines of gasket seal or mivec or something down bottom, they said gotta take the whole block out to get to it if it at the bottom hence the pricey fix.

[Taz]

i would recommend going down to supercheap and buying a $1 can of engine degreaser, and giving your engine a degrease, getting any and all oil marks off of it. Drive it as per usual, and every day check your block thoroughly. This will tell you the origin of the leak, and how fast it is leaking. Depending on this it might be a simple tappet cover gasket replacement or it might even be a touch up for some miracle sealant
I don't think it is a head gasket - you would notice a difference in the car if it was.
Just do the above, a $1 can might save you 700+

[illmotion]

i would recommend going down to supercheap and buying a $1 can of engine degreaser, and giving your engine a degrease, getting any and all oil marks off of it. Drive it as per usual, and every day check your block thoroughly. This will tell you the origin of the leak, and how fast it is leaking. Depending on this it might be a simple tappet cover gasket replacement or it might even be a touch up for some miracle sealant
I don't think it is a head gasket - you would notice a difference in the car if it was.
Just do the above, a $1 can might save you 700+

Did that awhile back might try it again, but ill take photos this time around so you guys can tell me where It might be coming from, since last time I didn't really have a clue where Extactly it leaking from but I tried to sealant what I could but still leaking ahaha.

[Taz]

if the leak is up high then it will be an easy fix, down low itll be a prick
awaiting pics

[PHIL069]

I don't understand how this thread got so absurdly out of hand lol.

Has anyone though to ask where the oil leak was coming from in the first place? Some pics for us to diagnose even?

For all you know, it might be a $2 dollar part that needs replacing!

We didn't go that way of questioning as this thread is not in help section
+ The topic asked for a comparison, as if the problem was already determined

This thread just needed some divine intervention from our almighty GOD BENNOZ

[silverGPX]

Bens epeen must be throbbing

[Bennoz]

Don't wanna sound harsh, but if you can't find an oil leak, managing a hand made turbo conversion like mine is gonna cost you a whole lot more than that quote. Just ask AJ!

[Rob Furniss]

I have check the turbo posts on here as they all seem pretty expensive as well haha espcially when my car is mivec.


Regarding oil leak it everywhere I wouldn't know what to take a photo off lol, rob would you have any ideas about oil leaks? Since you live in WA could get you to check it out before I go ahead with the fix?

When I got quoted they said something along with lines of gasket seal or mivec or something down bottom, they said gotta take the whole block out to get to it if it at the bottom hence the pricey fix.

Hi mate, what I know about oil leaks is I have one too, it's annoying and I haven't got around to fixing it yet.
I reckon mine is from the crankshaft oil seal near all the pulleys and spraying down and back from there and my understanding is that to fix that the cambelt has to come off so i'm going to do a cambelt change on mine in the new year as I don't know for sure when it was done anyway.
If it's from your rocker cover gaskets that should be fairly easy to spot, half moon cam seals can also leak but never heard of really bad ones more like weaping but they could I suppose and again I would have thought you would see that.
Sumps can leak too as they have a liquid gasket that can get knackered over time and that's just downpipes off (and starter motor maybe from memory), drop the oil and get your sump off clean it up and put new special sealer on. Could amount to a couple of hours I suppose plus new oil in (maybe next day though).

I've heard people mention head gaskets leaking oil but i'm not so sure due to how much the head is torrqued down, on the last car mine looked like it was leaking but I think that was again crank shaft oil seal.

Is your alternator covered in oil?

How about phoning tyre power or similar, tell them the problem and that you're going to give it a good spray down with degreaser and see if you can come and get the car on one of their lifts (offer them a few dollars - they might let you for free).
I sure don't mind having a look mate and see if we can spot it, a good spray of degreaser and then a spirited drive but I don't have ramps only axle stands. (i'm down south nr Rockingham)

[Kustom]

Sounds about right to me. I wouldn't expect change from 10k if your paying any mechanic to do an engine conversion in an FTO.

[Jase726]

Hookers and coke sounds good. What about a rebuild and some go fast bits? Guess it depends on what you want and what your budget is. I've had mine for 11 years and have no plans to sell it unless I get my 2001 RX7.

[payaya]

I have check the turbo posts on here as they all seem pretty expensive as well haha espcially when my car is mivec.


Regarding oil leak it everywhere I wouldn't know what to take a photo off lol, rob would you have any ideas about oil leaks? Since you live in WA could get you to check it out before I go ahead with the fix?

When I got quoted they said something along with lines of gasket seal or mivec or something down bottom, they said gotta take the whole block out to get to it if it at the bottom hence the pricey fix.

Hi mate, what I know about oil leaks is I have one too, it's annoying and I haven't got around to fixing it yet.
I reckon mine is from the crankshaft oil seal near all the pulleys and spraying down and back from there and my understanding is that to fix that the cambelt has to come off so i'm going to do a cambelt change on mine in the new year as I don't know for sure when it was done anyway.
If it's from your rocker cover gaskets that should be fairly easy to spot, half moon cam seals can also leak but never heard of really bad ones more like weaping but they could I suppose and again I would have thought you would see that.
Sumps can leak too as they have a liquid gasket that can get knackered over time and that's just downpipes off (and starter motor maybe from memory), drop the oil and get your sump off clean it up and put new special sealer on. Could amount to a couple of hours I suppose plus new oil in (maybe next day though).

I've heard people mention head gaskets leaking oil but i'm not so sure due to how much the head is torrqued down, on the last car mine looked like it was leaking but I think that was again crank shaft oil seal.

Is your alternator covered in oil?

How about phoning tyre power or similar, tell them the problem and that you're going to give it a good spray down with degreaser and see if you can come and get the car on one of their lifts (offer them a few dollars - they might let you for free).
I sure don't mind having a look mate and see if we can spot it, a good spray of degreaser and then a spirited drive but I don't have ramps only axle stands. (i'm down south nr Rockingham)

There is no way you can say its coming from your oil seals unless you rip the timing cover off. More than likely it's leaking from the rockers and tracking down your timing case.

[illmotion]

Well on the search of my new FTO Engine i came apon this mechanic in Belmont,WA that does conversions in his backyard and my god his set up is awesome full car jack and everything built most of the place himself, i was gonna get his wreck and get that put in mine for $1500 but when we double checked the block has as much problems as mine so we scraped that idea, so he was willing/recommended a Legnum Conversion as discussed below

Hi Steve,
further to what we talked about today, you will at least need the following:
-research a turbo that would suit a RB25DET skyline engine that suits your driving style.
-find out price and availability of the turbo and plumbing kit (oil and coolant lines to and from the block)
-find out what size intercooler will fit your car and price and availability.
-find out how much for a 6A13TT halfcut and availability.
-download the vehicle mod forms from the dept of transport WA and fill them out and submit them.
-speak to a dept of transport approved engineer to find out his costs and requirements.
-speak to an exhaust shop about prices for a full exhaust and also intercooler piping.
-the labour for the actual conversion will be approx $1500.00.
-other expenses will be modifying a/c, power steering and fuel lines. (approx $300-$400), battery relocation kit to the boot, relocating the fusebox from the engine bay near the battery.

This should give you somewhere to start.
Find out all the costs that you can so that you are fairly sure what the project will likely cost, and then allow some extra for unforseen costs.

Regards
Anthony Miller

Can you guys answer any of the questions mentioned above or know how much it roughly cost for each of those required?

[MH999]

Just fix the leak lol or degrease it and flog it off on gumtree.An engine conversion like that will cost heaps.This guy in Belmont only wants your business and will tell you anything to get it. If you want turbo power buy a Silvia or gt4 celica,mr2 etc.

Btw I have seen your car before,a couple of years back a guy from south freo was selling it for 5k had over 210k on it,I remember the white blue dials and stock wheels painted black on the edges.also from memory it had chrome mouldings and Audi style lights.