FTO vs CIVIC VTI-R

jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:06 am

TimmyD wrote:
akuma3 wrote:lota interesting reply lol

i just wish i could mod my fto to be 4wd and turbo it lol
its called an evo engine

it would still be front wheel drive when you put an evo engine in it... you would have to change the drive train which is more $$$, $$$ that im pretty sure most of us dont have...

i got killed by a integra type r... but then it got pulled over on parramatta road... im driving tiptronic by the way... probably wouldve been different story if i was manual aswell

i beat a honda integra gsi and it was manual but thats probably because its 100kW at the flywheel ahaha and no VTEC YO!!!!!

and thats the only honda encounters ive had

HRD2BQT · Post by **HRD2BQT** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:05 am

Simon,

yeah Marcs DC2S used to be gold.....now its baremetal hahahah....maybe primed already!!

head to head aye?>....hmmm, thats intresting to hear...what else has he done to his motor?...

ANBU_fto · Post by **ANBU_fto** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:56 pm

guys guys guys....

ive got a manual GPX, with one mod..... and i ve beaten up them DC5's, but when im head to head with a DC2 i cant win... whys is that? and i hear u guys have been beating DC2's...

i haved lined up with these cars and won
Mazda mx6
honda civic nad the type r's
integras.... except the DC2
my mums vt super charge...
my bros tip GPX
sportivo corolla and camary
lol.... mazda 626 non turbs...
holden gemy
suzuki swift gti
my sisters starlet gt turbo... close call that one.... phew....
a ford xr6
honda crx's

paladin · Post by **paladin** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:03 pm

ROFLLLLLL

i looked at getting a crx (same eng as vti-r) and frankly... there sh*t for more then looks... no LSD no toruqe slow as hell acel Civic gear boxes....

tellem red stickes dont add 50 HP a meter and neons dont make you float

tommy · Post by **tommy** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:20 pm

i hate the rear of the Crx.. ugly ugly rear

Beme007 · Post by **Beme007** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:14 pm

Well I actually own a CRX 91 Sir Manual and FTO GPX tip once. .
CRX Kill FTO on a drag by half car length.

Well it is a true fact .
Only a exhaust and filter mod done to CRX.

FTO - Exhaust K&N filter

I sell my CRX 2 years ago.. ( they dont look good any more )
hahahahh
FTO still look pretty cool!~

akuma3 · Post by **akuma3** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:37 pm

that's why i said it's a big diff from tip to manual FTO

and that's why i said i wish i could make my FTO 4WD, drive train lol way over the limit for me, i actually ask around already but some mechanic said they can't do it on FTO, other cars yes

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:06 am

akuma3 wrote:and that's why i said i wish i could make my FTO 4WD, drive train lol way over the limit for me, i actually ask around already but some mechanic said they can't do it on FTO, other cars yes

where there's a will (and nice piece of blank cheque), anything is possible...

after witnessing an EG Civic dishing out a sickening can of whoop-ass on WRXs / Soarers / old-school rotors (let alone FTOs) at Wakefield Park few months ago, I have made an oath never to make anymore Honda jokes...

there is sooo much things you can do to a Civic, you never what what you're up against on the streets these days...

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:21 am

Was the EG Civic N/A or force feed?

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:28 am

the Civic was N/A and it must've been screaming past 9000rpm on the main straight - deadset, it sounded like an angry pack of bees in a Milo can LoL...

i suspect it would been running a worked JDM B18B motor in it or something... ask Steve / David / Tanya - it flew past us in Robb's car at the main straight! (and boy what a strange experience that was...

)

xiang · Post by **xiang** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:59 am

hahah.. wow.
Next it'll be some ulgy Datsun van with Nos.. ahha.
* shrugs *

Post by **smorison** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:14 am

GPXXX wrote:the Civic was N/A and it must've been screaming past 9000rpm on the main straight - deadset, it sounded like an angry pack of bees in a Milo can LoL...

i suspect it would been running a worked JDM B18B motor in it or something... ask Steve / David / Tanya - it flew past us in Robb's car at the main straight! (and boy what a strange experience that was... )

ummm yeahg just to clarify that...

its a civic with an integra motor...

compression was raised to about 11:1 and about 10-15k was spent on the engine...

thecook · Post by **thecook** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:33 pm

crx's are nice little beasts!

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:46 pm

smorison wrote:
GPXXX wrote:the Civic was N/A and it must've been screaming past 9000rpm on the main straight - deadset, it sounded like an angry pack of bees in a Milo can LoL...

i suspect it would been running a worked JDM B18B motor in it or something... ask Steve / David / Tanya - it flew past us in Robb's car at the main straight! (and boy what a strange experience that was... )

ummm yeahg just to clarify that...

its a civic with an integra motor...

compression was raised to about 11:1 and about 10-15k was spent on the engine...

What colour was it, i know theres one exact same conversion in yellow, in Vic. & thats was the one i mention on my previous post. Its one hell of a sleeper.

HRD2BQT · Post by **HRD2BQT** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:09 pm

I have a frend who's got Charcoal Grey EG Hatch with B18/B16 frankenstein....14.5 @ 96MPH (???) at WSID during the Sydney Drag Combat.....and clocked 1.17 around wakefield on 15" ITR Wheels on 195/50/15 Trampio Semi-slick

ENGINE SET-UP:
B18c Block
B16a Head (stock internals)
Mugen 4-1 Header (one piece)
2.25 Mandrel Bent Piping with Exforce Muffler
HKS Mushroom type Air Filter (STREET)
Custom Air Dam hooked up wer d headlight is (track/strip)
Some Japanese tichker silicon Spark Plug Lead
Cusco OIL Catch Can
RX7 Oil cooler
NGK Iridium plugs
TODA Cam Gears
H22 Injectors
Type R TB
Spoon Chipped ECU (9K Rev Limiter)
5 Spd non lsd gbox
brass button clutch

NEW ENGINE SET UP: Still yet to run
Same as above with:
ITR Head
ITR Piston
Crower Stage 2 Cams
S2000 TB
J's Racing Big mouth intake
TODA intake manifold gasket (lessen intake temp by almost 40%)

COMING UP: HONDATA ECU

He's lookin at hitting mid-high 13's with the new set up

Chiangstar · Post by **Chiangstar** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:53 pm

HRD2BQT wrote: head to head aye?....hmmm, thats intresting to hear...what else has he done to his motor?...

i'll make you find out the hard way.. hahahahhaha

nah hes done heaps of suspension mods recently so it corners nicely now ... not much more in the way of engine mods after the hondata... but im sure he has something planned...

simon

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:28 am

rxz wrote:from the specification, even an FTO GR has more torque, more power, more cylinder, and bigger engine size than a VTI-R civic (kerb weight is a bit heavier though)

unless it was a GS FTO, inexperienced driver, or more people in the car, i believe there shouldn't be any problems with civic

my cousin drives an auto GLI civic and he takes pride in red-light GP
he reckons he can kill my fto, but I just never prove it to him for his own sake

but you can look at those specs alone and think that one car is faster than another.

IF you have one engine that produces 200KW but only between 7-8k, and nothing below that rpm, an engine with 170KW that produces peak power much earlier would be the engine to have. Specs is one thing, but its powerband is very important also.

Then you have to take into consideration, gear ratios, diff ratio etc.

mrx · Post by **mrx** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:41 am

payaya is absolutely right - and is relevant to the similar post about the FTO vs RX8 argument too. I have ridden around in one of them a couple of times, and unless he was REALLY on it, it was sluggish. I know that this is an argument also used on FTO's, but compared to the RX8 the MIVEC powerplant it is quite a bit more useful IMO.

You have to have useable power and torque down low otherwise you opponent has driven away from you before you are making useful numbers.

akuma3 · Post by **akuma3** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:31 am

i still hate ppls say VTEC YO!!!!! kills MIVEC