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Post by Boris »

EURO wrote:but can i get away with just putting two new ones on the front wheels and moving the 60% tread to the back?
Can you get away with it? kekeke... this is the way you would do it, no point sticking brand spanking new tyres on the back... and leaving you fronts @ 60%... :wink:
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sorry boris, maybe didnt write that correctly.....,

I know that if i choose to only replace two of the tyres, that the new ones should go on the front and the 60% tread to the rear....

, but just wondering whether I replace all four at once, or put up with the 60% tread on the rear tyres, e.g. will i notice much of a difference, and will they last for quite a while as they arent doing much of the work...
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Post by Boris »

oh... sorry :oops:

Can't really comment on actually feeling the difference, It all depends on your setup, and your driving style, but I doubt you will feel the difference if you were going from Typy A at 60% to Type A at 100%, However you could feel some difference going from Type A at 60% to Type B at 100% if Type B is a better tyre...

Personal advice would be to just get the two, and wait until you are unhappy with your rear tyres, or until they need replacing, I think being the price tyres are it's not efficient chuking a tyre that has 60% on it.

This way, you also will only ever have to replace 2 tyres at one time, cos I know buying 4 new tyres at once is a killer...

I'll shut up now, and go hide...
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yeh your probably right,
my main problem is I got a really good price on a set of 4, but they wont offer that price on two.. I guess I will call them tomorrow and ask what the difference in price b/w buying 2 and 4 is... cant imagine it being anymore then 10-20 a tyre.
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review of Goodyear Eagle - F1 gsd3

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So, I Finally chose my tyres and had them fitted on Saturday.

Just thought I would let you know, I chose the Goodyear Eagle F1....

I chose them due to the fact they had really good reviews both in magazines, from other people that use them and widely promoted by ALL the tyre places I called.

I was warned off the older model by a number of sellers, saying they were dangerous in the wet.

Basically my choice ended up being b.w goodyear, birdgestone potenza and BF goodrich g4 sport....

My original quotes for the goodyear ranged from $245 - $300!! this was getting out of my league, so I ended up snaffling them for $230 a tyre - which I think is pretty good.

HAve made a huge difference to the driveability of my car. No more wheel spin when launching, cornerning much better and no more aquaplanes in the wet....

Although I was a litle worried about spending close to a grand on tyres, I figure the whole point about driving a performance based car is that yuo can use that power... my old tyres were not letting me do that...

anyway, so far, i strongly recommend.
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mmm well heres my story

i love yokahammas, just brilliant on my 2002 mag.

but i havnt had them on my fto yet. what i have had is a set of bf goodridges... and i tell you i will never touch them again!!
i.e. taking off, if i accelerated hard, i got fairly bad wheelspin and torque steering when i changed hard into secand.

i now have some nankang sport ns-ii's i am told its not the best brand, but i have noticed 3 things with them so far

top speed in first gear movedfrom 52k/h or so to 60k/h
no more damn 2nd gear wheel spin
the back end follows rather then tags along for the ride

i am very happy with them so far, look forward to testing them on a set of tight 80k roundabouts i know...
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which BF goodrichs did you have??

Their top of the line stuff supposedly is one of the higher rated tyres around in the US *shrugS*
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grants gotem now i forgot the exact model but they cost 150 a corner + fitting etc

the nankangs are 500x better in the wet

with the bf goodrich's i was sloap salaming all over the place, couldnt accelerat AT ALL in first gear in heavy rain

today weh ad soem good rain today and the nankangs were nearly as good in the wet as in the dry!
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Post by dannyboyau »

is any body using Toyo Proxes RA-1
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One of the vehicles at a MC track competition day had a set of those. It was a big horrid VP lump or something, but it stuck to the tarmac unbelievably well... So well that I remember this six months later! :)

I'm on Toyo R1-R, as the RA-1 didn't come in a suitable size for stock GPX rims. The R1-R tyres are damn good r-comps, but so soft they are really only good for short course work if you want to make them last. Ten laps on a proper circuit and I used up several "months" worth of tread, hehe.

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thanks richard

have you tried the Toyo T1-S
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Post by dannyboyau »

Richard some DIMENSIONAL DATA on some sizes of the toyo RA-1 available

I think you will find the first one or second one should fit the original GPX rim

tyre tread O.D O.W static static dynamic test Revs rim
size depth mm mm radius width radius rim per Km size

225/50ZR16 6.0 627 229 288 244 300 7.0 531 6.0 - 8.0
205/55ZR16 6.0 628 211 291 224 300 6.5 531 5.5 - 7.5
205/40ZR17 6.0 595 215 280 234 289 7.5 551 7.0 - 8.0
235/40ZR17 6.0 619 243 289 265 300 8.5 531 8.0 - 9.5
225/40ZR18 6.0 638 233 299 254 310 8.0 513 7.5 - 9.0


I added other sizes for anyone interested as these should fit on 17 and 18 inch rims on a FTO
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hey guys,

just rang around for a quote on Falken Azenis Sports( RT 215)
and they have been recalled because they didnt have the DOT stamp for street legal reasons, so people who are driving Azenis sports are driving "ilegal tires" haha just because of the DOT stamp.

They said supply will be back in November...
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Post by RichardH »

dannyboyau wrote:thanks richard

have you tried the Toyo T1-S
Damn, I replied to this when you first posted it. But it no workee.

Yes, I've used T1-S since January 2003 for street tyres. Good grip wet or dry. Not up to r-comp grip of course, but they've lasted well.

Expensive though. Not much cheaper than cheap comp tyres!

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so Rich you would rate the RA-1 as the best of the toyo rubber ?
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Post by RichardH »

Can't say from experience, as I've not tried 'em. But the tread pattern is certainly track-oriented, whereas the R1-R tread is built like a wet weather street tyre.

Don't know if the RA-1 could pump much water.

The R1-R tyres are *very* good on extremely wet motorkhana days, though! I ended up 7th fastest out of 40-odd cars in that rainstorm MC session (and that was driving with a fractured rib too!!). :)

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Post by Breza »

Hi All,

Just thought I would add that I have some Toyo T1R's fitted to the standard wheels today and after a spirited drive I would have to seriously say this things are awesome value for money. Can't wait to have my suspension replaced next week to take full advantage of a couple of the southern Targa stages.

I paid $217 a hoop, but those not living in Tasmania might get them for less.

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Post by Boris »

Arent you meant to take it easy for a couple days after getting new tyres? so that they bed in better, which makes them lasts longer? :?
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Nah, that principle shouldn't apply with tyres as the surface that the are contacting is totally random.

brake pads have that benefit as the rotor material is the same and the transfer of brake pad material onto the rotor aids the friction.

Since the road your travelling on is totally different every second, it shouldn't make a difference.
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Just reading back on this thread and a question I want to ask again is has anyone heard of FULDA made in Germany tyres as I am at my wits end here I need tyres by thursday yes tomorrow to drive to Sydney for Autosalon Grand Final and I don't know what to choose everyone is giving me all different opinions ... HELP PLEASE :(
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