Differences in gear boxes
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Re: Differences in gear boxes
Same here shane, cusco had a stand at time attack last year with their LSD oil, with comparisons and motul and cusco were almost identical, with cusco being slighty better on wear rate apparently but if you can vouch for the motul then maybe thats the way to go, easier to source than cusco oil as well

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Re: Differences in gear boxes
this just got confusing... 
where would I look at getting some of this stuff then?
my local auto stores don't sell it...

where would I look at getting some of this stuff then?
my local auto stores don't sell it...
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Re: Differences in gear boxes
If you dont have an LSD like me n shane etc then you dont need as stringent oil as him - a good regular oil will suffice

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Re: Differences in gear boxes
You would probably find the Cusco oil is not made by Cusco, simply rebranded.
But again you would just want to make sure it is OK for hypoid gears.
But yeah Motul is a world recognised motorsport quality oil. I'd be running their engine oil also if it wasn't so f**king expensive lol!
But again you would just want to make sure it is OK for hypoid gears.
But yeah Motul is a world recognised motorsport quality oil. I'd be running their engine oil also if it wasn't so f**king expensive lol!
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sorry for off topic here but what oil are you running - ive got castol syth 5-30 in at the moment - have you tried/rated it against others?

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Re: Differences in gear boxes
Only showing 1 litre bottle.... EDIT: I think I will use this one
http://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/online- ... escription
710 May also use CASTROL VMX 80.
http://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/online- ... escription
Maybe wait to see what Bennoz says................
http://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/online- ... escription
710 May also use CASTROL VMX 80.
http://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/online- ... escription
Maybe wait to see what Bennoz says................
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Re: Differences in gear boxes
well I'm guessing I don't have an LSD...
so is there anything here that I could use then?
http://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/online- ... px?id=5202
edit: just saw your post Phil, thanks, will look into those ones
so is there anything here that I could use then?
http://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/online- ... px?id=5202
edit: just saw your post Phil, thanks, will look into those ones

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Re: Differences in gear boxes
only the GPR rolled off the floor with it stock, and if you dont know that you have one or not, chances are that you dont.

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Re: Differences in gear boxes
Both front wheels off the ground, engine NOT going.....spin one wheel by hand while in gear........2 wheels spin same direction = LSD........two wheels spin opposite direction = non-LSD
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Re: Differences in gear boxes
Yeah I've been using Castrol Edge 5W30 for a while now, seems as good as anything I've used (but i haven't used Motul lol).Taz wrote:sorry for off topic here but what oil are you running - ive got castol syth 5-30 in at the moment - have you tried/rated it against others?
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Love Motul engine oil on my bikes. Been sticking to them for some long years now. Will definitely use the Motul 300V 10w-40 or 5w-30 for the car. They are expensive yes, but imo definitely worth it.Shane001 wrote: But yeah Motul is a world recognised motorsport quality oil. I'd be running their engine oil also if it wasn't so f**king expensive lol!
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Re: Differences in gear boxes
LOL @ yet another oil thread.
I just use what the manual says. My closest available Repco sells Valvoline Duragear, 75W - 85 API GL-4.

I too have an LSD, but the instructions that came with my LSD were to just use the factory spec oil, as its a helical type & not a clutch type.
The only time you'd need to change from what the manual says is if you have a clutch type diff.
I just use what the manual says. My closest available Repco sells Valvoline Duragear, 75W - 85 API GL-4.

I too have an LSD, but the instructions that came with my LSD were to just use the factory spec oil, as its a helical type & not a clutch type.
The only time you'd need to change from what the manual says is if you have a clutch type diff.
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Borrowed 3 Litres of this from work today, now I can do an oil change too
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Re: Differences in gear boxes

I hate how they come in 4 litre bottles thou



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Re: Differences in gear boxes
2.2 litres for gearboxBennoz wrote:
I hate how they come in 4 litre bottles thouStupid 2.2 litre capacity gearboxes
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0.3 litres to flush out some crap from gearbox
1.5 litres to spill on the driveway while trying to pour it into gearbox
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4.0 litres

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Re: Differences in gear boxes
1.9L for my front diffBennoz wrote:
I hate how they come in 4 litre bottles thouStupid 2.2 litre capacity gearboxes
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Haven't checked the gearbox level, probably up around the 5.5 mark...

I'll have an FTO one day... i swear!
until then:
1. 2001 Merc-Benz A160 (porta-loo on wheels)
2. 2007 Peugeot 307 TDi (more fun than you'd expect)
3. [url=ttp://ftoaustralia.com/v3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=25373]2009 Mitsubishi Triton Di-D (a monster in its own right)[/url]
4. 1992 Nissan NX Coupe (club car and project car)
5. 1996 Holden SB Barina - "The Nugget"
6. 1996 Jeep XJ Cherokee Sport - The Budget Build
7. 2010 Toyota Landcruiser 76 Series - V8 Goodness... - Build coming soon.
8. 1990 Audi 90 manual - The delightfully dignified daily driver
until then:
1. 2001 Merc-Benz A160 (porta-loo on wheels)
2. 2007 Peugeot 307 TDi (more fun than you'd expect)
3. [url=ttp://ftoaustralia.com/v3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=25373]2009 Mitsubishi Triton Di-D (a monster in its own right)[/url]
4. 1992 Nissan NX Coupe (club car and project car)
5. 1996 Holden SB Barina - "The Nugget"
6. 1996 Jeep XJ Cherokee Sport - The Budget Build
7. 2010 Toyota Landcruiser 76 Series - V8 Goodness... - Build coming soon.
8. 1990 Audi 90 manual - The delightfully dignified daily driver
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Re: Differences in gear boxes
i heard ATF works better as MT oil... , anyone tried that? 
does MT has oil filter like AT?

does MT has oil filter like AT?

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Re: Differences in gear boxes
Manual doesnt have a filter like AT andrew.
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Re: Differences in gear boxes
Sounds like when Tim did my gearbox oil a few months ago.PHIL069 wrote:2.2 litres for gearboxBennoz wrote:
I hate how they come in 4 litre bottles thouStupid 2.2 litre capacity gearboxes
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0.3 litres to flush out some crap from gearbox
1.5 litres to spill on the driveway while trying to pour it into gearbox
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4.0 litres
"Oil keeps going in??? WTF, how much does that gearbox hold, It's still going, must be bigger than 2.2L, get's to 3L in box, can't be a standard GPVR gearbox?!?". Let's check, pull out funnel, all the backed up oil goes on the ground... About a litres worth by memory haha.
Not sure how it managed to overfill itself by that much though
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Re: Differences in gear boxes
Some newer manual gearboxes use ATF as standard eg. Ford Rangerphunkydude wrote:i heard ATF works better as MT oil... , anyone tried that?
does MT has oil filter like AT?
mikeey01nzl wrote:Hats off to you too Phil for spending so much time on the phone trying to help someone out, your a top man and only a few would've spent so much time. well done!![]()
Daniel2019 wrote:Come on phil, we bonded at the bonfire, lets be honest here...me and phil are besties now...![]()