Valve bouncing
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Valve bouncing
Hey guys can someone please tell me why my FTO is valve bouncing at 6000 revs I just put in a recondition engine with 50000 k's The engine hasn't been used in 4 months and it is valve bouncing ? Is it because the lifters need wearing in some one help my old engine reved out past red line ??it a mivec btw
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Re: Valve bouncing
Why do you think it's valve bouncing?
If the engine is not fully warmed up it will rev limit at 6100rpm.
If the engine is not fully warmed up it will rev limit at 6100rpm.
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Re: Valve bouncing
I warned it up drove it for 40 min before I even gave it any ?
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Re: Valve bouncing
Check engine light on?
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Re: Valve bouncing
Quick google search came up with several possible results.
According to FTOIreland, theres a safety mechanism that kicks in when the alternator isnt charging properly (rev limiting).
Make sure oil levels are correct, and try resetting the ECU after youve double checked the oil.
http://www.fixya.com/cars/t5165637-rev_ ... ot_8500rpm
http://www.fto-ireland.com/forum/phpbb2 ... ?f=2&t=449
According to FTOIreland, theres a safety mechanism that kicks in when the alternator isnt charging properly (rev limiting).
Make sure oil levels are correct, and try resetting the ECU after youve double checked the oil.
http://www.fixya.com/cars/t5165637-rev_ ... ot_8500rpm
http://www.fto-ireland.com/forum/phpbb2 ... ?f=2&t=449
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Re: Valve bouncing
Thanks so hangers change the alternator and check the oil level than reset it and fingers crossed it will not
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To avoid changing the alternator for no reason, I'd suggest double checking your oil levels first. Then disconnect the negative battery lead for 20 minutes. If that doesnt work, you may want to start thinking about the alternator, unless anybody else knows what the problem might be.
Sahin did your dad end up fixing his/finding the problem?
Sahin did your dad end up fixing his/finding the problem?
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Re: Valve bouncing
You keep using the term 'valve bounce'. Rev cutting is not valve bouncing.
Assuming it is rev cutting around 6100rpm, as posted yes it could also be oil levels or the alternator, but rather than just replacing the alternator maybe test it first. You should find instructions for this in the manuals, or drive by any auto elec and ask him to have a quick look.
Assuming it is rev cutting around 6100rpm, as posted yes it could also be oil levels or the alternator, but rather than just replacing the alternator maybe test it first. You should find instructions for this in the manuals, or drive by any auto elec and ask him to have a quick look.
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If valve bouncing is where theres not enough pressure to stop the valve from stopping and sealing on the valve seat, as a quick search has told me, then as Shane implied, it wouldnt be rev limited to 6100rpm I wouldnt think? If it really is valve bouncing then theres a big problem 
If it actually is valve bouncing then I have no idea

If it actually is valve bouncing then I have no idea

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Thanks heaps shane il do all of the above tomorrow and keep unlisted it rev cuts off every gear and the alternator is the one that came with the new engine so il do everything I suggested then if it's still doing
It il put my old alernator on your a legend
It il put my old alernator on your a legend
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Re: Valve bouncing
Check the terminals on the battery and at the alternator.
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Shane or Daniel so I replace the alternator with the old one i had in my old engine and reset the computer double checked the oil levels warmed it up for 45 min and took it for a drive and it still cuts off at 6100 rpm ? Please help its totally pissing me off any ideas
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The terminals are fine
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Re: Valve bouncing
Is the engine misfiring/running a bit rough, because ZFL45H1's FTO was limited to 6000rpm and it turned out one of his injectors wasn't plugged in but he had the engine light on too.
Edit: Maybe your engine temp sensor isn't plugged in or isn't working and the ECU thinks that the engine is always cold so it is limiting you to 6000rpm.
I doubt that you have downloaded the electrical manual.......but it is item A-75 (2-B) Engine coolant temperature sensor on page 2-7
http://ftoaustralia.com/downloads/elect ... manual.zip
EDIT2: It is also pictured in the wiring diagram on page 4-29
Edit: Maybe your engine temp sensor isn't plugged in or isn't working and the ECU thinks that the engine is always cold so it is limiting you to 6000rpm.
I doubt that you have downloaded the electrical manual.......but it is item A-75 (2-B) Engine coolant temperature sensor on page 2-7
http://ftoaustralia.com/downloads/elect ... manual.zip
EDIT2: It is also pictured in the wiring diagram on page 4-29
Last edited by PHIL069 on Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Valve bouncing
The engine is running fine not rough at all everything sounds normal it's running perect and sounds heathly just when I give it past 6000 revs its like it cut off like when u rev it all the way out past red line I've got my mechanic. Working on it as he can't even figure it out only thing he thinks is the sensors are no good in the new engine
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mikeey01nzl wrote:Hats off to you too Phil for spending so much time on the phone trying to help someone out, your a top man and only a few would've spent so much time. well done!![]()
Daniel2019 wrote:Come on phil, we bonded at the bonfire, lets be honest here...me and phil are besties now...![]()
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Quoted from your other threadAussielocos wrote:Sorry guys I'm new to this and didn't know how to edit the other post just thought if put up this one as its not valve bouncing its engine cut offand from what I can gather its the sensor I need to check which involes pulling apart the top half of the engine a big job indeed
If it's the coolant sensor you don't have to take the top of the engine apart, its on the coolant water pipe............
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