Whiteline 22mm rear sway bar kit

zuihoujueding · Post by **zuihoujueding** » Wed May 02, 2012 4:08 pm

The bracket might be strong as its steel but what concerns me more than anything is the number of holes being drilled to suit multiple vehicle applications. And to top it off with the flawed design like you mentioned, will result in a broken bracket.
Furthermore, the welds look like it was done by an apprentice. You can tell immediately that there is a great mis-match in quality between the brackets and the sway bar.

I have not done anything yet. my mate just bought a welding machine and is looking at fabricate a completely new bracket to suit.

Post by **Bennoz** » Wed May 02, 2012 7:03 pm

zuihoujueding wrote:The bracket might be strong as its steel but what concerns me more than anything is the number of holes being drilled to suit multiple vehicle applications. And to top it off with the flawed design like you mentioned, will result in a broken bracket.
Furthermore, the welds look like it was done by an apprentice. You can tell immediately that there is a great mis-match in quality between the brackets and the sway bar.

I have not done anything yet. my mate just bought a welding machine and is looking at fabricate a completely new bracket to suit.

I don't understand why you wouldn't use the factory mounts

there's nothing wrong with them... You don't go swapping out subframes when upgrading the front swaybar.

zuihoujueding · Post by **zuihoujueding** » Wed May 02, 2012 7:11 pm

possible. it just need to be customized for the thinker bar, hence thicker bush brackets.

Shane001 · Post by **Shane001** » Wed May 02, 2012 10:02 pm

As per Ben's comment, I'm planning to use the factory mounts when I install mine on the racecar. They're a slightly thinner metal, but I think the 'moulded' shape probably gives them more strength. Plus the mounting base itself is double thickness.

I agree all the holes in the mounting plate aren't a great idea, every one I've seen fail has failed across the mounting holes, not the welds. I also don't think they've used a very good quality metal either. All in all very average looking quality wise.

Post by **Bennoz** » Thu May 03, 2012 8:40 am

Yeah, just pull those D bushes out of the Whiteline brackets & put them in the stock ones. Here's a pic of when I did mine years ago.

fraz91 · Post by **fraz91** » Thu May 03, 2012 9:53 am

You wanna be careful using the new bushes in the original brackets. If it's not regularly greased then it'll chew the bushes out damn quick.

Shane001 · Post by **Shane001** » Thu May 03, 2012 12:22 pm

Bennoz wrote:Yeah, just pull those D bushes out of the Whiteline brackets & put them in the stock ones. Here's a pic of when I did mine years ago.

Exactly what I was planning to do

So you've run em like this for a few years and never a problem?

Fraz yes you need to grease the bushes properly with the correct 'stuff' before installing them

zuihoujueding · Post by **zuihoujueding** » Thu May 03, 2012 9:13 pm

what "stuff" would u recommend? Lithium grease?

Shane001 · Post by **Shane001** » Thu May 03, 2012 9:17 pm

whatever the 'stuff' is that comes with the bushes

Honestly can't remember what it's called, and can't be fucked doing a google for you

PHIL069 · Post by **PHIL069** » Thu May 03, 2012 9:21 pm

Shane001 wrote: Honestly can't remember what it's called, and can't be fucked doing a google for you

This gibberish is funny

iced · Post by **iced** » Fri May 04, 2012 4:00 am

zuihoujueding wrote:The bracket might be strong as its steel but what concerns me more than anything is the number of holes being drilled to suit multiple vehicle applications. And to top it off with the flawed design like you mentioned, will result in a broken bracket.
Furthermore, the welds look like it was done by an apprentice. You can tell immediately that there is a great mis-match in quality between the brackets and the sway bar.

I have not done anything yet. my mate just bought a welding machine and is looking at fabricate a completely new bracket to suit.

the number of holes is because the bracket is flipped for installation on the LHS vs RHS.
Not because of different vehicle applications.
I dont forsee any issues with the welding that causes the failures.

The factory mounts are weak. When used with an 18mm bar its fine.
When used with a bar that is 4mm thicker it will snap. Ive seen it many times.
Mount it on the car without the swaybar and you can flex it much easier than the whiteline unit.

Throw semi slicks or r-compound semi slicks on the car and the flex that the standard mounts endure will eventually cause them to fail with a thicker bar than standard.

My custom LHS bracket is the best solution because it uses the thicker steel and correct alignment of the bar and endlinks so it does not stress the LHS mount.
I combine that will additional thick large diameter washer to spread the load on the 2x chassis mounting bolts on each mount across a larger area of the mounting surface.

Post by **Bennoz** » Fri May 04, 2012 8:02 am

I've had that 22mm Whiteline swaybar in the car, with that mounting arrangement for almost 10 years. It was one of the first mods I did.

The car has semis on it & done countless trackdays.

As mentioned above, the only thing you need to do it is keep the lube up on the bushes, but that relates to all poly bushes, not just the swaybar. I tend to try & lube all my bushes (yeah yeah, lol it up) once a year, that includes the front lower control arm bushes and the front swaybar.

fraz91 · Post by **fraz91** » Fri May 04, 2012 9:28 am

zuihoujueding wrote:what "stuff" would you recommend? Lithium grease?

From memory SuperPro recommends a WP Grease be used on all their polyurethane bush products, so I can imagine the whiteline being a similar stuff.

Post by **Bennoz** » Fri May 04, 2012 9:36 am

fraz91 wrote:
zuihoujueding wrote:what "stuff" would you recommend? Lithium grease?
From memory SuperPro recommends a WP Grease be used on all their polyurethane bush products, so I can imagine the whiteline being a similar stuff.

Yeah, its that white goo. You get a satty of it when you buy the bushes, but never use all of it on the first install. I've got half a dozen half empty bags here

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Fri May 04, 2012 8:53 pm

Bennoz wrote:
zuihoujueding wrote:The bracket might be strong as its steel but what concerns me more than anything is the number of holes being drilled to suit multiple vehicle applications. And to top it off with the flawed design like you mentioned, will result in a broken bracket.
Furthermore, the welds look like it was done by an apprentice. You can tell immediately that there is a great mis-match in quality between the brackets and the sway bar.

I have not done anything yet. my mate just bought a welding machine and is looking at fabricate a completely new bracket to suit.
I don't understand why you wouldn't use the factory mounts there's nothing wrong with them... You don't go swapping out subframes when upgrading the front swaybar.

That's what I was thinking??? That bracket it just for rice I reckon.

The aftermarket mount doesn't look strong anyway!!!

iced · Post by **iced** » Fri May 04, 2012 10:25 pm

Bennoz wrote:I've had that 22mm Whiteline swaybar in the car, with that mounting arrangement for almost 10 years. It was one of the first mods I did.

The car has semis on it & done countless trackdays.

As mentioned above, the only thing you need to do it is keep the lube up on the bushes, but that relates to all poly bushes, not just the swaybar. I tend to try & lube all my bushes (yeah yeah, lol it up) once a year, that includes the front lower control arm bushes and the front swaybar.

Maybe you are quite lucky.
Have you had one OEM swaybar mount vs Whiteline and try to flex it?
In my opinion the OEM flexes to much so it gives you an idea of its rigidity under load.
But each to their own.

When you guys have used the Whiteline HD mount are your endlinks sitting straight and not have the nut fouling the shock body?
Ill hook up my camera and show you guys a better version of the Whiteline item which has holes in the right place.

Shane001 · Post by **Shane001** » Thu May 10, 2012 12:54 am

Iced I had a look at what you were talking about this afternoon re the left bracket.

I can't believe Whiteline got this so wrong! No wonder the damn things fail

I think the stock bracket will be strong enough, but I'd be interested to see your custom bracket and how much just in case

Shane001 · Post by **Shane001** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:01 pm

Shane001 wrote: I'd be interested to see your custom bracket and how much just in case

Or not?

Shane001 · Post by **Shane001** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:06 pm

Bennoz wrote:Yeah, just pull those D bushes out of the Whiteline brackets & put them in the stock ones. Here's a pic of when I did mine years ago.

Ben, how did you fit the 22mm poly bushes in the stock brackets? Are they 18mm stock brackets?

silverGPX · Post by **silverGPX** » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:15 pm

Shane001 wrote:
Bennoz wrote:Yeah, just pull those D bushes out of the Whiteline brackets & put them in the stock ones. Here's a pic of when I did mine years ago.
Ben, how did you fit the 22mm poly bushes in the stock brackets? Are they 18mm stock brackets?

jam 'em in!!

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