Confusing lifters

[payaya]

Been doing some research on lifters and it has just gotten my confused.

There were previous reports from memory we can use the lifters on the below site.

http://www.3sx.com/store/comersus_viewI ... duct=12153

Fairly straight forward? That lifter is for a 6G72 DOHC 3000GT/Stealth. Hyflow/Topline sell the lifter for a 6G72 3000GT/Stealth but from its specs its about 52mm long. Measured the original FTO lifter and it was roughly 10mm shorter! How does it fit then?

Going by the camskill website the FTO and 3000GT 6G72 DOHC are different.

Then you go on:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 650496.htm

It states the FTO uses the same lifters as a 6G72 SOHC Diamante.

Ebay (below link) has the 6G72 SOHC compatible with the DOHC which means the 3SX site has the right lifters for the FTO.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/91-99-MI ... 2204wt_752

Above lifter is a lifm16 and on their official website again its measurements make it wider and longer than the original lifters I have.

WTF?

Should I just forget it and buy a set of 3000GT lifters and hope they fit? Or has the lifters on 3SX have never been confirmed to fit?? But even camskill lists the DOHC 6g72 lifter not compatible with the FTO.

Also the Magna use to use them when they had the 6G72 3.0L SOHC motor.

Thanks!

[silverGPX]

Thankgod you did that research I was just about to buy them off 3sx!

[Bennoz]

Only one way to find out, get one shipped over! Try sweet talk them, ie "If it fits we got thosands of dollars orders coming your way!" Then if it doesn't fit, never speak to them again. lol.

[spetz]

Is this only for non MIVEC motors?

[Bennoz]

One in question here are the non mivec variants, yes.

[payaya]

Thankgod you did that research I was just about to buy them off 3sx!

I just had confirmation the 6g72 Dohc lifters are smaller than Fto ones. They are longer but narrower.

The FTO ones are the same as a 3.0l pajero and 3.0 magna v6. Both are sohc motors.

[payaya]

Only one way to find out, get one shipped over! Try sweet talk them, ie "If it fits we got thosands of dollars orders coming your way!" Then if it doesn't fit, never speak to them again. lol.

In previous posts you said some dude on the engine forum got them to fit? That's what is confusing me. I will try to do some more research as I was about to buy them as well from that 3sx site.

Should see where the magna guys are getting their lifters from.

[silverGPX]

Howd you find out that info payaya?

[payaya]

You mean people pointing to the lifters on the 3sx site? Everyone was pointing to it in the past but no one just got them.

I've narrowed it down to the 4g93 lifter from the early evo gsr mitsubishis. Getting more info now but have to wait until tomorrow.

[silverGPX]

Okay man, well im chasing a set, so ill see what happens with this

[payaya]

Yep I'll try to get the info ASAP if not we may have to do a group buy with meek as the cars that use this lifter are not that popular.

[silverGPX]

Okay man if you can get a set for under $200 thatd be awesome $150 excellent!

[payaya]

Might be able to get it for low 200's including delivery. There's also big difference between lifter brands and a lot are from china. The better ones are the ones made in the USA by top line and hyflo.

[Bennoz]

This is the list of mdels they fit. Taken from old snapshot of Kempys website:

HT3103

MD171130
MD376687

DE3A FTO 6A12 DOHC (NON MIVEC)
E52A GALANT 4G93 DOHC
E54A E64A E74A E84A GALANT 6A12 DOHC
EA1A EC1A EA1W EC1W GALANT/LEGNUM 4G93 DOHC
EA3A EC3A EA3W EC3W GALANT/LEGNUM 4G64 DOHC
EA7A EC7A EA7W EC7W GALANT/LEGNUM 4G94 DOHC
EC5A EA5W EC5W GALANT/LEGNUM 6A13 DOHC
CA3A CB3A MIRAGE/LANCER 4G91 DOHC
CA4A MIRAGE 4G92 DOHC (NON MIVEC)
CB6A MIRAGE/LANCER 6A10 DOHC
CD5A CD5W LANCER/LIBERO 4G93 DOHC TURBO
CJ2A CK2A MIRAGE/LANCER 4G15 DOHC
CM5A MIRAGE/LANCER 4G93 DOHC TURBO
CQ2A CS2A MIRAGE/LANCER 4G15 DOHC
CQ5A CS5A MIRAGE/LANCER 4G93 DOHC
F36A F46A DIAMANTE 6G72 SOHC
DA2A CARISMA 4G93 DOHC
S33A S43A PROUDIA 8A80 DOHC
Z25A Z26A COLT 4G19 DOHC MIVEC
Z27A Z28A COLT 4G15 DOHC MIVEC
N84W N94W CHARIOT 4G64 DOHC
CU4W AIRTRECK 4G64 DOHC
N61W N71W RVR 4G93 DOHC
N64WG N74WG RVR 4G64 DOHC

I Googled 'diamante lifters' and the first 3 results had them... if you want to get them out of the US.

[payaya]

Go see what the diamante lifter looks like!! Same with certain 4G93!

[Bennoz]

Um, yeah, thats why I put specific model numbers up

[silverGPX]

so.... what do i use haha

[payaya]

Um, yeah, thats why I put specific model numbers up

Yep I thought that would help myself but it seems same engines use different lifters so its sort of all over the place.

Eg. A 4G93 uses different lifters depending on the model.

I'm just waiting for a dude in NZ to get back to me but should be around 200 bucks delivered.

[payaya]

Well it's $190 plus shipping which ranges from $20-$30.

Who's in need to get at leas three people to buy to get at this price.

It's not china crap which most company sell but hylift (top line) lifters from the USA.

[payaya]

OPTION 1: Economy 10-25 days $18.00 (Insurance is up to $250.00 but it is very hard to be paid for lost items as there is no tracking number, I have just been down this track, lifters were sent to Germany on the 6th of JUNE, they still haven't turned up...)
 
OPTION 2: International Air 3-10 Days $20.00 (Insurance is same as above)
 
OPTION 3: Economy Courier 2-6 days $36.00 (Covered for value up to about $350)
 
OPTION 4: Express Courier 1-5 days $48.00 (Covered for value up to about $350)

Nz dollars.