Bennoz 6A13 Conversion

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:lol:

Its the one part I haven't had to open yet & thats the actual donk itself. I've had heads in pieces to replace all the tappets & valve seals, but not actually off the motor itself.

Because I kept the factory tubs, there relly wasnt a need to open it up & drop forgies in, would have been over kill.

Having said that, I do have my eyes peeled for a spare engine, which I'll probably do that to ^^ over time for when this one blows up. Cause it will eventually... knowing my luck :lol:
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How similar are the heads to the MIVEC heads, if you've had those open?
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They were similar enoguh for RPW to make a 2.5l mivec engine. But it was a test build and no one bought it so it was dissasembled. Also it was really expensive for a n/a basic motor but it did have forged internals for high compression, etc fitted to it.
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Mivec heads are the same underneath (i.e the stud patterns & chambers etc) so they'll bolt onto any 6Axx block, but they are very different up top, for obvious reasons.
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Do you know the CC of the dome for the MIVEC and 6A13 heads?
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That I dont know... would need grab a head from each & I dont have a Mivec head here.

Seeing the differences in pistons, 6A13 has dished pistons vs 6A12s crowned piston, I would imagine most of your compression difference is there. That & the stroke.
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the piston difference would be huge... how different is the stroke? (only for interest sake)

i didnt know a 2.5 mivec was made... link???
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http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?op ... &Itemid=40

You can get pistons to put in a 2.5litre im sure that can make it rev higher. Not sure if its because of a taller piston or just a lighter one or what though.
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SG wrote:http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?op ... &Itemid=40

You can get pistons to put in a 2.5litre im sure that can make it rev higher. Not sure if its because of a taller piston or just a lighter one or what though.
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fkn hell... that sucks... would have been an epic build, but its all too familiar with private tuners... no one willing to put up the dosh for the guinea pig = no product to sell... having the same issue with road race motorsports in Emerica....

anyway, back on topic... whats next on the red bitch ben?

how long on the blocks?
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Thanks Bennoz, though I would be more curious to know what the CR ratio difference would be when MIVEC heads go onto a 6A13 block (hence the dome CC).

I am contemplating slowly attempting to build a 6A12/13 but it's difficult to commit such a large amount of money for just a motor when by the time it's finished I could buy an S15 or something...
I'm getting older and somehow decisions are being based on financial feasibility and logic.
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I don't think there's anything logical about building a 6a12/6a13 engine but its pretty cool though... :) I think RPW used custom made pistons because they could use a 12.5:1 compression ratio with high strength. Can't imagine they would have gave up the chance to use ordinary pistons if there were some out there with a decent compression ratio for it.

I would just buy the one RPW has made/knows how to make up. They sourced the parts from 3 engines says right there on the site...
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Yes but their bill for that engine is astronomical, in the vicinity of about 15K+++
I mean, at this stage it is just speculation. The engine is in a Lancer coupe and to be honest I feel like an idiot for even thinking on spending more money on a Lancer. I converted it to a 6A12 in 2004 when I was 21 and I felt fine driving it, but today at 28 I think I may be embarrassed to drive a Lancer. I haven't driven it since 2007 so I cannot comment.

The only thing with this Lancer is that it was my first car bought new as a present by my dad in 2001 so it has a lot of sentimental value and in a way I want to "finish" it to the level I wanted it at when I was younger.

I don't know, so many conflicting feelings and thoughts.
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Was gonna say, I had a feeling you were thinking that. TBH with the cash you'd spend, you wouldn't get anywhere near the power you would from just dumping a stock 6A13 in there out of the box. If it would fit that is...

And I hear ya re: the 'young peoples' car lol, I had to drive my step sons pos MX5 today with its comically wide tyres & attract-a-cop-ophone 4 inch cannon dangling out the ass end & mismatched blue on red hardtop... felt like a right penis driving in the driveway to work with all these people from the office looking on :oops:

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^ If you made the muffler and hardtop more appropriate, that car would be awesome in my standard!
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Would be more awesome if I could fit in the f**king thing without pinching a nerve in my neck!
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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:lol: :lol:
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But hey! You can still call that thing a little red beast.

Whats the update on the big red beast anyways?
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update is it's still a big papper weight at this point, that is untill parts come back from the work shop.
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Actually, my gearbox bearing kit arrived from the US yesterday :D
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