ARE POD FILTERS ILLEGAL?? OEM sensors, enclosed etc vic

[brent88]

Are pod filters illegal? thats a very general question so..... there must b a way for them to b legal in any state right i mean they are just filtration devices.

to my understanding (would like cleared up):

pod filters are illegal because they let more air in which means more fuel and can change the emmision levels the car produces by running the engine rich???

if u connect (dunno what its called) the box with the honeycombe shite in it and the (sometimes) 8 or so pin plug(imagine its wiring for sensor/sensors, MAF??) then theoryetically the ECU could make the engine run as efficiently or close enough to to make the car have much the same emmisions.

i wouldent give a flying fruit about it but

stuff that confuses cops= defect
stuff that cops resent= defect
only driver and no witness= defect
japenese car= attempted defect
etc etc

hope this gets some blood boiling and is contraversial enough for me to get a prompt reply:)

thanks
Brenton

o yea its coz some1 wants to buy my factory airbox and i dunno if i should keep it as a spare.

[-Nighthawk-]

I think open POD filters are, closed ones not so much. Was thinking the same thing if I got caught hopefully I could take it out within 24 hours and avoid anything etc.

[brent88]

thats my point exactly 'closed ones not so much" they fkn cops and gov making laws on mods cloudy so your resident ars*hole pig can defect u coz he dosent like u.

anyone know a specific set of guidelines to follow like ADR.... links???
in the last year i have had 6 sets of cops around my place for the way i drive and my music in my house up loud and everytime some1 says i left black marks up their street they go over my car, but that was before the pod, its got a heat cover (but its not a box) just one u bolt to the base to keep the hot air away..... thinkin of making an aliminum box for it. ran my own CAI under the radiator and tested the pod and it 25% cooler air into it (factory one and my adaption because factory one dosent aim straight at pod(thinks its a blitz kit).

but my testing method is a bit dodgy and by bit i mean heaps

step 1: drive car 10 mins stick ball of aliminum in centre of pod (make two same size and weight) drive for 3 mins set route revving the sh*t out of it, feel how hot it is.

step 2: connect CAI and drive for 3 mins set route revving the sh*t out of it, feel how hot it is.

dodgy resoursfull australianism if thats a word but it works

im out
brenton
lol

[evoman]

Lol...don't get too complicated with it mate.

Believe it or not, the main reason POD filters are considered illegal is noise pollution.

Environment document
RTA document
Vehicle Noise ADR

The important line is "Modifications must not affect compliance with any emission or noise related ADRs;"

It is the RTA's belief (rightly or wrongly) that it can impact both intake noise and possibly in some cases exhaust emissions. Atmo BOV's come under the same issue.

Either way, you would want to enclose you POD to avoid sucking in hot air and whatever else is thrown its way.

Note: I'm coming from a NSW perspective here - might be different in other states.

[brent88]

no.... thats pretty helpfull and thats why im going to enclose it in time but next job is dimming the lights i installed under my manual part of my gearshift and also fitting rings+ with + blue gauge faces+ hopefully if i buy them a brushed or mirror finished instrument cluster surround (am going to start a thread asking if this is legal to have mirror finish's in eyesight of driver),o yea and im mounbting 6 and a half inch coax's in the rear panels (if the fto was a four door itd b where the door panel is) and taking the 6*9's to allow the sub noise to vent into cabin and release pressure from boot (also 6*9's are ussualy have mnore bass which i dont need with the subs i got but can still put stereo on a bass setting if i need bass in the speakers aswell as the subs

back on topic after all this is done wil make an aliminum box for filter have seen guides but im also hoping some1 can point me to the best 1 that has the most descriptions(where to buy materials from etc dont want any carbon fibre sh*t on my car especially not a cover that insted of weighing2 kgs it weighs 1(id rather become a vegetarian for a week and lose a kilo) actually i already did that lol thats really hard i ddi it to prove a point not because im a panzy lol *slaps self in face for going off topic again*

brrrrrgh im good now

cheers
brenton

[evoman]

And while we are on this topic...I just want to ask one thing.

How the fcuk can there be regulations like this for modified cars when I can have my ear shot to pieces by every Harley rider that ventures past me? Those things are about 1000dB louder than any BOV or pod filter a car is going to have, and yet they are completely legal.

[silverGPX]

~ bduffman

[brent88]

because harleys are made to american spec's (100db tops) and as far as i know its easy to get them loud which is the biggest ting about a harley. i mean if u gfot 40k to waste your gonna spend 1-3 k's on the exhaust. yeah?

im prepared to b corrected as this is just an assumption (if anyone says its gonna make and ass outta u n me) ASS, Outta U n ME. im gonna get cranky haha) the harley's can make well over 100db but its liek the gun liscences in america they have political partys that get 'donations' from the gun clubs ......... its a rule of thumb really

MY STEREO IN MY MOTHAFUKIN HOUSE NEEDS TO BE DEFECTED BECAUSE IT GOES WELL OVER 100DB!!! IT CAN BUT IT DOSENT!!!! (AT L;EAST NOT WHEN THE PIGS ARE AROUND)

Point being just because somthing can exceed the db level it desent mean it shoudl b outlawed otherwise we wouldent have cars because factorys are too noisy for old whingin c*nts.

and on that bombshell "i only worry about what i can change" so ill have to put up with the BS and conform.

cheers?
flustered brenton (ill get the fuk ova it) haha

[KJ_bob]

Harley's sound like sh*t stock, and from my experience are not that loud. But pretty much all of them have aftermarket pipes on them, then they sound like a real harley. Btw they do get booked. But its like everything with the police, if you drive like a dickhead you will get booked-for anything and everything. Keep it nice and quite while their around and they won't pay any attention to you

[brent88]

understood................but...... its not how u drive or in your case 'ride' its where u do it. and if u want attention u do it at a supermarket at 12:01 am but if u just love driving,power,speed and having fun u find a nice quite residential street and flog the sh*t outta it before anyone can go to their window 2 c ya plates lol(not saying that i do this and not saying that i dont, cops look at forums 2.)

[Slinky-minky]

And while we are on this topic...I just want to ask one thing.

How the fcuk can there be regulations like this for modified cars when I can have my ear shot to pieces by every Harley rider that ventures past me? Those things are about 1000dB louder than any BOV or pod filter a car is going to have, and yet they are completely legal.

I agree. I can't stand the sound of Harleys!! more so when there is like 5 of them traveling together.
The in Bendigo are really bad. I drive *currently push* a stock standard BMW 318i and I get pulled over simply for the fact that "that's a nice car for a green P Plater to be driving" when in fact it's the biggest POS.
My car before the BMW was a manual 2002 Lancer and that was always being pulled over, has nothing done to it at all, and the red paint is faded, and I used to get pulled over because it was a Lancer, however once your off your P's you could drive like a total tosser and barely get pulled over.

[brent88]

lol i got pulled over once when i wasnt on green p's hahahahah
point proven... the little girls in blue dont know sh*t about cars so the look for p plates

[ThatGuy]

Never been pulled over, I must be lucky. In saying that, the only time I had a cop come up to me was when I was WALKING to my gf's place (just up the road), late at night.

[brent88]

i live in a place called bendigo although no1 has ever heard of it its the third biggest city in vic with over 100,000 people but still the cops have a hillbilly perception on cars(if u dont drive a holden or a foird your saying your better than all 'us' and your a c*nt for rubbing it in) were the hoon capitol for vic (based on convictions per saturation of people) but thats only because of a couple of cops in this city and heaps of old bastards dictating the way the city is run.

we dont get cut slack we get targeted, if i c headlights anywhere me i promise im in 4th gear put it that way

its sh*t but thats what u get for living in a country full of fkn hillbilly ignorant retarded bogans o well such is ... Australia

[ThatGuy]

Lol, where's the patriotism dude?

[silverGPX]

Just slow the f**k down, stop revving out 1st gear after every red light or stop sign.

Turn your music down in residential streets, save it for the highway.

Put a intake pipe from your front bar to your stock airbox take away the restrictive sections just before the airbox. get a k&n filter, get some stainless piping from the throttle body to airbox.

Get a K&N sticker for the top of the airbox.

No really loud sucking noises, no hot air. Same amount of gains from a pod that is fully enclosed etc. No gayness, no cheap ass podfilter sucking in hot air.


Get a quieter muffler. Take the veilside wing off and any stickers on the outside of your fto, get darkest legal tint.

Your done, guaranteed no attention from cops.

[brent88]

i brought an fto for fun not to drive it like some1's grandma on valium

when im not having 'fun' in my car im listning to the music i like at the volume i like aka wake up the neighbourhood volume

tryed diff setups for the filter but its not the same with the box (u wouldent know if u hadnt tryed a PROPER pod filter setup as even the box and how it receivs the air is restrictive and quite.

i actuallly have a k&N panel filter and its sh*t ive driven fto's with standard filters and theres not heaps opf differnece maybe a very slight performance upgrade 2hp or so and maybe 5%nicer sound from the engine bay as opposed to at least 15%better sound from the engine bay and at least 3-4hp from my blitz pod filter and stainless steel piping to the throttle body (wouldent have car setup this way if it wasnt better especially when i could have either)

if u put a k&N sticker on your airbox it means your not smart enough to do a simple(minor) service on your own car and u take it to a mechanic that couldent recognize the difference between a paper air filter and a washabale air filter in which case ud deserve to have it disposed of lol

not cheap pod filter. just because places like supercheap sell them for 30 bux and your mates all brought em it dosent mean their not a valid performance enhancement that was brought out for a reason. im sure lots of guys here that actually also know about engines have pod's or similar air filters on their fto's.

i have stock muffler atm but am looking at louder and more importantly less restrictive exhaust system so i can unlock some of the power mitsubishi sacrificed for practicality

i dont care about attention from cops i get that anyway for having somthing that isnt a crapadore i just wanna be able to explain that my car is legal and not get fines all the time

[brent88]

im sure if i lived in a capitol city id b what u think a patriot is but when all u c around u is bogans that think there tops because they know how to cook sausages on a bbq (what an acomplishment), their footy team won this week and they could afford fish and chips for their own family and even had the leftover change from their dole check to go to the pokies. then they have have the audacity to think they can talk down to u.................. u get the point

[Dan25]

if you just love driving,power,speed and having fun you find a nice quite residential street and flog the sh*t outta it before anyone can go to their window 2 c ya plates lol.

Not so responsible and fun when you run over and kill an 8 year old kid...

That was sort of a stupid comment.

I think we all know the only appropriate place for that stuff is the track. And even if you don't make it to the track, I can think of plenty of better places to drive like that than a residential street.

I'm absolutely f**king fed up with the sheer amount of drivers (mostly commodores and falcons) that flog the sh*t out of the cars around my area each and every day. I live in a fairly busy residential area due to a small convenience store accross the road and all you hear all day every day is the sound of a POS automatic commodore doing a burn-out or flying down the street at double the speed limit.

I've seen one lose control and hit the gutter, exactly where my car would have normally been parked, I've seen one T-bone another innocent lady, putting her in hospital, and my entire neighbourhood saw the 2 (yes, 2 different occasions - one a Statesman, one a VL) who lost control and flipped into parked cars, having to be freed from the wreckage by the jaws of life and taken to hospital in a critical condition. It's horrifying that these accidents happened on a residential street with a speed limit of 50km/h. That is NOT the kind of place you should be "enjoying" you car.

It's not acceptable that so many people have so little regard for other people and their right to enjoyment of land and property. This last comment applies to your stereo too.

[brent88]

different driver, different situation(not too many kids out at 1am, i think speeding on a freeway would be more dangerous. with the stereo my point was just coz it can go loud it dosent mean i have it flat out all the time.