Engine

[crimson236]

Personally I would be buying the cheapest one I could find (that has been compression tested and leakdown tested, regardless of kms. Then spend another $600-$1000 on seals timning belt etc. Now you have a sweet engine.

+1 totally agree, Kms are not really the big issue as long as compression is there and you give it a major service you should have no issues

As for stand why do you need one? and can get them from supercheap etc bout $200, just sit the motor on a bench or old tyre on the ground etc

Other than the above mentioned compression and leakdown test, is there any other tests which should be conducted when getting the engine?

[zuihoujueding]

wait, we can actually request the wreckers to conduct these tests for us before we buy? which does not makes sense.

[crimson236]

I was told for the new engine, I would have to change the timing belt, water pump etc before installing it to ensure there wouldn't be any problems. Wouldn't reconditioning it be cheaper? When you get the engine reconditioned will they do the change of those parts for you?

[vipfto]

nope your looking at around $300 for all timing assembly parts incl waterpump/tensioners and only 30 mins to replace when out of car unlike the normal $700 labour tag when in car, will still work out much cheaoer than complete recon

[KJ_bob]

6A13 anyone?

Other benefits of working at maccas - bad skin, sh*t hours, serving dickheads and having to tell people you work at maccas

If you enjoy all of the above, work in a bar...$20+ /hr

sorry for interrupting... carry on

[crimson236]

6A13 anyone?

Other benefits of working at maccas - bad skin, sh*t hours, serving dickheads and having to tell people you work at maccas

If you enjoy all of the above, work in a bar...$20+ /hr

sorry for interrupting... carry on

Mine's a tip. Will 6A13 fit? I'm too lazy for manual. Especially when I've gotta drive through the city everyday to uni.

At least you are getting some income. I got rejected by maccas...

[payaya]

nope your looking at around $300 for all timing assembly parts incl waterpump/tensioners and only 30 mins to replace when out of car unlike the normal $700 labour tag when in car, will still work out much cheaoer than complete recon

$700.00 is expensive. I did mine myself, and it did not take long. Got a quote from a Mitsubishi dealership and it was only 360 labour.

[payaya]

I was told for the new engine, I would have to change the timing belt, water pump etc before installing it to ensure there wouldn't be any problems. Wouldn't reconditioning it be cheaper? When you get the engine reconditioned will they do the change of those parts for you?

Well most of the cost is incurred by changing your timing belt as your belt is connected to the head, and if you wanted to take your head off you should change your timing belt.

Seriously I've done my timing belt and if I was at the stage where everything was off and I found out I head a leaky gasket it would take less than an hour I think (havent moved my inlet manifold for ages now) I get the head off. Once that is off get the head checked out and machined (Cost me 100 bucks on my other car) and put in a new gasket. Really I can't see it costing that much more if your at the timing belt change stage.

Maybe mechs like to rip people off I am unsure.

[vipfto]

I was told for the new engine, I would have to change the timing belt, water pump etc before installing it to ensure there wouldn't be any problems. Wouldn't reconditioning it be cheaper? When you get the engine reconditioned will they do the change of those parts for you?

Well most of the cost is incurred by changing your timing belt as your belt is connected to the head, and if you wanted to take your head off you should change your timing belt.

Seriously I've done my timing belt and if I was at the stage where everything was off and I found out I head a leaky gasket it would take less than an hour I think (havent moved my inlet manifold for ages now) I get the head off. Once that is off get the head checked out and machined (Cost me 100 bucks on my other car) and put in a new gasket. Really I can't see it costing that much more if your at the timing belt change stage.

Maybe mechs like to rip people off I am unsure.

It adds up there MR C dont forget should do both heads and not as simple as just remove the head and slap it back on
And I do my belts of course and $360 is a good price from mits esp

[koolio1234]

I was told for the new engine, I would have to change the timing belt, water pump etc before installing it to ensure there wouldn't be any problems. Wouldn't reconditioning it be cheaper? When you get the engine reconditioned will they do the change of those parts for you?

Well most of the cost is incurred by changing your timing belt as your belt is connected to the head, and if you wanted to take your head off you should change your timing belt.

Seriously I've done my timing belt and if I was at the stage where everything was off and I found out I head a leaky gasket it would take less than an hour I think (havent moved my inlet manifold for ages now) I get the head off. Once that is off get the head checked out and machined (Cost me 100 bucks on my other car) and put in a new gasket. Really I can't see it costing that much more if your at the timing belt change stage.

Maybe mechs like to rip people off I am unsure.

It adds up there MR C dont forget should do both heads and not as simple as just remove the head and slap it back on
And I do my belts of course and $360 is a good price from mits esp

Not sure why you were addressing Mr C when you clearly quoted papaya

[vipfto]

neither am I

was way to early in morning esp on a Saturday

[crimson236]

I've been told that I should do the oil, filter, coolant, new timing belt & water pump, as well as do a pressure testing & servicing of the radiator where they will access the condition of the water hoses as well when changing the engine. Is that advisable? Was quoted $1100 for labour inclusive of fitting in the new engine.

[zuihoujueding]

i thought thats a good deal.

[mr-charisma]

check out www.completefto.com.au it has a good listing of places you can call for a FTO Spares, thought being in Perth, you might find spending more for a locally sourced 2nd hand engine engine is a better option than shipping back & forth if an unforeseen issues might occur .. cause a lot of these places are in QLD (technically under fair trading, the seller has to incur costs for all shipping related to faulty items etc - but you'd waste a lot of time fighting them for it )

Personally, I think it's far better value to buy yourself an engine crane ($150-200) and do all the work yourself before fitting the engine it's far easier to do all the things like timing belt, water pump, other belts, etc while the engine is already out of the car.. but ... at the end of the day, it all depends on how keen you are to get your hands dirty & learn more about the car you're driving..
.. if you can't be arsed, then pay the man whatever they are asking & just get your car back on the road, or take it somewhere else for another quote until you find one that will do it cheaper.

oh & forget about 6a13's for now ok

[crimson236]

check out http://www.completefto.com.au it has a good listing of places you can call for a FTO Spares, thought being in Perth, you might find spending more for a locally sourced 2nd hand engine engine is a better option than shipping back & forth if an unforeseen issues might occur .. cause a lot of these places are in QLD (technically under fair trading, the seller has to incur costs for all shipping related to faulty items etc - but you'd waste a lot of time fighting them for it )

Personally, I think it's far better value to buy yourself an engine crane ($150-200) and do all the work yourself before fitting the engine it's far easier to do all the things like timing belt, water pump, other belts, etc while the engine is already out of the car.. but ... at the end of the day, it all depends on how keen you are to get your hands dirty & learn more about the car you're driving..
.. if you can't be arsed, then pay the man whatever they are asking & just get your car back on the road, or take it somewhere else for another quote until you find one that will do it cheaper.

oh & forget about 6a13's for now ok

I would love to but are they any pros around who can help me with this? I'm still noob to cars.

[vipfto]

fly me to perth supply the tools and done over a weekend

[crimson236]

fly me to perth supply the tools and done over a weekend

What equipment would u need? I wouldn't mind doing that, good way to learn more about the car

[vipfto]

3/8 drive socket set
1/2 inch drive set
spanners
breaker bar
engine hoist (can hire them)
jack and axle stands

I was just kidding but if your serious I have to take holidays soon so will be able to do it

[crimson236]

3/8 drive socket set
1/2 inch drive set
spanners
breaker bar
engine hoist (can hire them)
jack and axle stands

I was just kidding but if your serious I have to take holidays soon so will be able to do it

If you're willing, I'd be more than happy to pay for your trip. But not anytime soon cause uni assignments are a bitch. Exams coming soon as well.

[vipfto]

sweet well let me know mate if timing is right then will be no probs