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Valandis91 wrote:yeah bennoz i was going to but after finding out how much they charge down here since only one place does it they charge $$$ so its going to end up cheaper getting the rpw heads

the disadvantages of living in Hobart :( *sigh*
Might be cheaper to get them from the mainland, ported and polished and sent to you in hobart. Might work out cheaper if the only local place near you charge too much $$$. Either way, its not gonna be cheap.
Bennoz wrote:RPW HPC Coated Extractors - on an N/A engine, HPC coating is a toss. Waste of money.
+1, just get some nice 4-2-1's with 2.5" piping or something along those lines.
lol .. it would be cheaper to get the whole car shipped to the mainland to be done & shipped back afterwards..
yeah it mite work out cheaper...
i was actually contemplating sending my car up to get the work done...
i know some people down here have done that!
but eh my guys play with targa cars so itll be good!
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Valandis91 wrote:
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Valandis91 wrote:yeah bennoz i was going to but after finding out how much they charge down here since only one place does it they charge $$$ so its going to end up cheaper getting the rpw heads

the disadvantages of living in Hobart :( *sigh*
Might be cheaper to get them from the mainland, ported and polished and sent to you in hobart. Might work out cheaper if the only local place near you charge too much $$$. Either way, its not gonna be cheap.
Bennoz wrote:RPW HPC Coated Extractors - on an N/A engine, HPC coating is a toss. Waste of money.
+1, just get some nice 4-2-1's with 2.5" piping or something along those lines.
lol .. it would be cheaper to get the whole car shipped to the mainland to be done & shipped back afterwards..
yeah it mite work out cheaper...
i was actually contemplating sending my car up to get the work done...
i know some people down here have done that!
but eh my guys play with targa cars so itll be good!
Yeah fair enough, those targa cars are quite tough. The reason I suggested shipping it to the mainland was so that you could get it done cheaper and ALSO you'll get more performance shops to choose from that have good reputation. If you run into any problems, its an option to consider.
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Bennoz wrote:Good for you :)

Couple of things I would have done locally thou, otherwise you're gonna have a bill from rpw bigger than that of a 6A13 conversion

RPW Ported Heads - any machine / performance engine build shop can do this, even I can do it. Speak to the bloke who'll be assembling all this & ask him if he's got a local guy who can do it. Porting is nothing more than spending time with a straight grinder. Also deck the head (machine the mating surface) to bump up compression. You can also look at having larger valves (tri seated) put in, also look at heavier duty double valve springs to increase valve return speed. Especially if your gonna get high rpm cams.

RPW Ported TB\Intake Manifold - Also something that any machine shop can do. Buy a larger brass butterfly & just bore out the core. Make sure you port out the mouth of the plenum to match as well.

RPW HPC Coated Extractors - on an N/A engine, HPC coating is a toss. Waste of money.
asked dave about the larger valves...
he said they are not necessary as these engines flow exceedingly well
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As said g/l but thats a hell of a lot of dollars for a minimal outcome.

You could easily do a evo conversion for that much money and then it would be an absolute weapon. Hey but that just my 2 cents
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just giving u guys an update!

new things added to the list:

Uprated Fuel Pump
210cc or 240cc injectors
New Pads
NOS kit :twisted: probably only doing a 50-70hp shot though
still will be some fun though!

U should see the cai thats being built for me... its going to be piece of art :D and also very effective...
its going to breathe and exhale like a dream

RPW are taking their sweet time so have only received handling bits so far... Dave said they should have everything ready by early next week for shipping (fingers crossed)!!!!

also picked up a ultimate for $400 hehe :D
so thats going to be used to have one map for NA power and one for NOS :twisted:

cant wait for this to be put in!
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Why are you upgrading injectors. Absolutly no point for your setup. It can (and most probably will) make it idle like sh*t and stock injectors only run at like 60%. You only need bigger injectors if your going turbo
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I8A4RE wrote:Why are you upgrading injectors. Absolutly no point for your setup. It can (and most probably will) make it idle like sh*t and stock injectors only run at like 60%. You only need bigger injectors if your going turbo
I have to agree, not a lot of point pumping in more fuel if you can't pump in more air to go with it....
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Agreed, not required.

Read the 2 part turbo article from FTO Ireland, specifically part 2 regarding the fueling system:

http://www.fto-ireland.com/downloads/turboftopart1.pdf
http://www.fto-ireland.com/downloads/turboftopart2.pdf
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Valandis91 wrote:also picked up a ultimate for $400 hehe :D
Nice score, second hand yeah? If not, where the f**k did you get it and can you get one for me? :D
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Bennoz wrote:Agreed, not required.

Read the 2 part turbo article from FTO Ireland, specifically part 2 regarding the fueling system:

http://www.fto-ireland.com/downloads/turboftopart1.pdf
http://www.fto-ireland.com/downloads/turboftopart2.pdf
Benny, cant get link to work. Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing :lol:
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I8A4RE wrote:
Bennoz wrote:Agreed, not required.

Read the 2 part turbo article from FTO Ireland, specifically part 2 regarding the fueling system:

http://www.fto-ireland.com/downloads/turboftopart1.pdf
http://www.fto-ireland.com/downloads/turboftopart2.pdf
Benny, cant get link to work. Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing :lol:
Agreeing, and also n00bing :lol:
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FTEvolution wrote:
Valandis91 wrote:also picked up a ultimate for $400 hehe :D
Nice score, second hand yeah? If not, where the f**k did you get it and can you get one for me? :D
yeah it was second hand but still a good buy!

i read that and it says that they maxed out the injectors at 121kw.... plus with the NOS and everything else im doing im going to have to upgrade the fueling system wont i?
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I ran a 100hp nos shot in mine & pulled 160atkws & didn't need to up my injectors ;)
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are u sure when ralliart tinkered with your engine they werent changed?

did u upgrade anything in the fuel system at all?

surely the fuel pump?
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FFS

The amount of kw's DOESNT determine the size of the injectors.

Think about:

What does a turbo do......adds more air = need more fuel to compensate, otherwise detenation will occur destroying engine.

You will not be adding a massive amount of air to the engine therefore injectors ARE NOT NECESSARY.

Im running a 134 kws and im still using standard injectors.
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Nope, stocky 166cc'ers, stock pump. The only thing I changed was the FPR.
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Valandis91 wrote:are you sure when ralliart tinkered with your engine they werent changed?

did you upgrade anything in the fuel system at all?

surely the fuel pump?
No all you will need is a FPR
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oh and ive already got a fpr which is going in when everything else is...
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Is this is going to be a daily driver?
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yeah they know that...

but i see where your going!
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