Guess what im about to buy..... Frankenstein resurected!

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:46 pm

nvr2low wrote:yeah mate it has been done before i think the car with the number plates fto evo or evo fto it was for sale on this forum mate

there is a car "FTEvo" but I think it's from the UK.?

nvr2low · Post by **nvr2low** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:50 pm

nope their is one in aus 2 let me find it
here i found it

http://www.ftoaustralia.com/modules.php ... ic&t=15591

Valandis91 · Post by **Valandis91** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:59 pm

hmmm maybe not then if its going to cost 20k but ill see what they say when they get back to me!
4g63 sounds good but considering no one has done it yet makes me a bit weary...
remember i only have a 18k limit here...
that includes exhaust and new shocks and lowered springs...

6a13 would be good if ben could help me out with parts and so forth so that i wouldnt have to fabricate any from scratch as that would not be very cheap down here!

and a gr hmmm that would be the easiest but thatll be my last resort i reckon...

nvr2low · Post by **nvr2low** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:10 pm

mate read post above buddy 4g63 has been done before mate

Valandis91 · Post by **Valandis91** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:15 pm

oh my bad haha

well ive got 15k to spend on the engine...
6a13 or 4g93?

im guessing 4g93 will have more support for parts and so forth
and more mechanics will know how to service it...
ill look up to see if theres any write ups on it to see the problems with it...

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:20 pm

Valandis91 wrote:hmmm maybe not then if its going to cost 20k but ill see what they say when they get back to me!
4g63 sounds good but considering no one has done it yet makes me a bit weary...
remember i only have a 18k limit here...
that includes exhaust and new shocks and lowered springs...

6a13 would be good if ben could help me out with parts and so forth so that i wouldnt have to fabricate any from scratch as that would not be very cheap down here!

and a gr hmmm that would be the easiest but thatll be my last resort i reckon...

when you said it wasn't a joke & you were doing it no matter what any one said .. I figured you had already sussed out the costs involved ..

I definitely recommend not going ahead with it mate.. instead go for 6a13 with stock turbos / put a blower on / 4g63T

If you're getting a workshop to do the work & they aren't related or best mates, then don't go that route.. they will bleed you dry..

nvr2low · Post by **nvr2low** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:21 pm

the post above i think the motor was a 4g63 mate well i am going 6a13tt so i would say that but u can get way more parts for a 4g series motor mate but more modification needed i think. the positive is the motor is smaller so you have more room in your engine bay.

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:22 pm

Valandis91 wrote:oh my bad haha

well ive got 15k to spend on the engine...
6a13 or 4g93?

im guessing 4g93 will have more support for parts and so forth
and more mechanics will know how to service it...
ill look up to see if theres any write ups on it to see the problems with it...

4g93 is a lancer / GS Fto engine

4g63 Turbo is the Evo engine <--- you want this

Valandis91 · Post by **Valandis91** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:29 pm

i had discussed it with them...
i just didnt know how much it was going to cost just to keep running until i spoke to my mechanic...

i mite go with the 4g63....

ill discuss it with my mechanic...

just for ease of mind the gr engine may be better

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:37 pm

Valandis91 wrote:so after a lengthy discussion with my mechanic it seems that this would be very expensive to run...
with such a high compression it would require race fuel which is above $6 a litre!
it would chew through oil and petrol...
it would need a rebuild every 15,000kms...
but it would be freakin awesome!
i just dont have the funds to keep it runnning like that...
ive emailed rpw to see if they could tune it down a bit by lowering the compression and having lesser cams but they havent gotten back to me...
so now we wait and see...
if they cant do anything then i mite go the gr turbo path...

I think the frankenstein engine would be awesome and I hope it works out for you. I would be getting a second opinion from another mechanic though. IMO it shouldn't need a rebuild every 15000kms if you
1. Service it say every 5000kms
2. Properly warm up the engine before driving it
3. Dont flog the crap out of it all the time.

Also I dont see how it would need race fuel when bike engines can run the same compression or higher on 98 octane. Should all come down to the tuning.

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:50 pm

Valandis91 wrote:i had discussed it with them...
i just didnt know how much it was going to cost just to keep running until i spoke to my mechanic...

i mite go with the 4g63....

ill discuss it with my mechanic...

just for ease of mind the gr engine may be better

If you're going the 4g63 route then hit up the guy selling his ready made 4g63 .. it might work out cheaper & easier than doing the conversion yourself.

Valandis91 · Post by **Valandis91** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:54 pm

who who????
whose selling it?

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:55 pm

who who????
whose selling it?

nvr2low wrote:nope their is one in aus 2 let me find it
here i found it

http://www.ftoaustralia.com/modules.php ... ic&t=15591

nvr2low · Post by **nvr2low** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:55 pm

check my post man that was the car for sale

sublime19 · Post by **sublime19** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:36 pm

Were you the same guy who made a post about getting a loan to spend on car? If so, did you really get a 18k loan for this?

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:41 pm

sublime19 wrote:Were you the same guy who made a post about getting a loan to spend on car? If so, did you really get a 18k loan for this?

and if he did?? whats wrong with that?

No different than getting a loan to buy anything else.. & there ARE stupider things to get a loan for IMO

If he's spending it on something that makes him happy, then I don't see a prob?

Valandis91 · Post by **Valandis91** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:45 pm

its the perfect time to get a loan...
plus itll be paid back by end of next year...
im not fussed...
ill have one sweet car by the end of it!

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:59 pm

i have to disagree that it's the perfect time to get a loan ..

Banks are not feeling as generous to give the cash to people in case they can't pay it back + they are feeling the crunch of the economic crisis..

With the job market the way it is it may not be as easy to get another one if you become redundant or get laid off because of the crisis..

but meh .. you won't be sorry if you know you're not going to want a diff car in future..

Post by **aza013** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:07 pm

sorry but after reading just the first post I

I sent them an email about 6 mponths ago asking about this and they said that I would have to give them 10K just to start the project

so I said no thanks

Valandis91 · Post by **Valandis91** » Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:17 pm

i have 3 jobs haha im just impatient with saving money...

ive got the money now anyways just hard to decide what to do with it...

another option i was thinking of was not turbo stay NA rebuild my current engine and do it up with the rest of the cash...
ported manifold and TB as well as the ported heads from the frankenstein engine plus the extractors, proper 2.5" exhaust with good hi flo cat with quad exhaust, transmission cooler, FPR, short shift kit, new shocks and lower car. sway bars
maybe cams but not sure if they're worth it...
any other suggestions to that setup?

i just love the sound of the 6a12 itll be hard to part with if i change engine...

oh and aza they told me $9000 for it...