Slow GR tip, what to look for?

G1 · Post by G1 » Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:06 pm

as far as i know there is a dyno day organised for the 17th of april at UAS

check the NSW forums

good chance to compare other FTO output to yours... see if yours needs tweaking or verify that its on the money already...

Agent007 · Post by **Agent007** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:01 am

I got a tip GR and i can beat a lot of commodores and fords.. my friends got a 3.8l ford ghia and vn commodore, and i've always whooped his ass. at the start its pretty even but den after 3rd gear im gone. I can beat most N/A cars except for a prelude Vtir. The prelude was the only N/A car i've lost too. My car is pretty much stock except for the exhaust.

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:16 am

Agent007 wrote:I got a tip GR and i can beat a lot of commodores and fords.. my friends got a 3.8l ford ghia and vn commodore, and i've always whooped his ass. at the start its pretty even but den after 3rd gear im gone. I can beat most N/A cars except for a prelude Vtir. The prelude was the only N/A car i've lost too. My car is pretty much stock except for the exhaust.

looks like you probably haven't matched up against an Integra Type-R (DC2) yet... if you've lost to the Prelude (assuming it's in NA form) then you have no chance of beating the DC2R... but if you can really beat a Commie with a tip GR then you are doing pretty well already.

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:18 am

Just to put things in perspective...

The FTO is not going to be able to beat every car out there. At the end of the day it is 2L and 150kw (less in the case of the GR), so don't be disapointed if you can't beat something with twice the engine size!

To have "size issues" over not being able to beat cars with larger engine sizes is just silly. Would you expect a commodore or falcon to beat something which had an engine twice the size of theirs?

It seems that on the street we forget about engine size, whereas if we were to race the FTO on the track, we would be divided into different classes based on the engine size, and in the case of the FTO we would only be racing other cars that had a 2L engine.

There's more important things in life than what car you can drag off.

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:48 pm

I think the problem is that ppl will start to compare cars no matter what Litre or cyclinder it had.

Just like the common agrument WRX or EVO (Both 2L with 4 cyl) Vs GenIII or Boss (Both at least 5.0L with 8 cyl) even though they are completely different type of technology, people will still compare. After all it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or meters, a win is a win (quote from Fast & The Furious ehhehehhehe)

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:17 pm

Dude, get it right.. it goes like,

"it don't matter whether you win by an inch or a mile... Winning's winning."

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:21 pm

Thax mikey, haahahahahaha i guess mine is the chinese version ahahahaha

Post by **smorison** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:24 pm

i don't race too many car's these days but when i do i don't normally have problems, V8's can be a problem from time to time but the v6's are normally easy.

even with my car feeling down on power at the moment at worst the race is even (i.e. less than half a car length either way).

the tip box though really does drain a lot of power.

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:29 pm

smorison wrote:the tip box though really does drain a lot of power.

True for a racing / drag situation, but I far prefer the tip for day to day driving (esp. peak hour)

G1 · Post by G1 » Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:38 pm

yeah i agree, i was driving everyday for work in my first tip fto... but now its a mainly weekend car so im loving the manual

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:14 pm

the only reason i bought the manual is because i can drive it the way it's meant to be DRIVEN.

i've driven tiptronics before and there was no way i'm going to take my chances with them again (unless it's a BMW SMG

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...but then again this thread is not about manual vs tip so i rest my case!

Post by **smorison** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:27 pm

GPXXX wrote:the only reason i bought the manual is because i can drive it the way it's meant to be DRIVEN.

i've driven tiptronics before and there was no way i'm going to take my chances with them again (unless it's a BMW SMG )

...but then again this thread is not about manual vs tip so i rest my case!

i drive my tip the way a manual is supposed to be driven and have had no problems with it what-so-ever. i also only put in the best oils i can find and other parts so that may well have something to do with it (and why other people have had problems that i have not).

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Tue Mar 23, 2004 11:10 pm

a manual is supposed to be driven with a clutch

Post by **smorison** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 12:02 am

G_A_V wrote:a manual is supposed to be driven with a clutch

yeah ok so i drive it like it has a dog box

but that's still manual!!!!!!

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:29 am

G_A_V wrote:a manual is supposed to be driven with a clutch

Unless you got an SMG, SMG II & the Lambo E shift ehehehehhee they all manual with electronic controlled clutch.

GPXXX · Post by **GPXXX** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 9:43 am

smorison wrote:
G_A_V wrote:a manual is supposed to be driven with a clutch

yeah ok so i drive it like it has a dog box but that's still manual!!!!!!

yeah but you don't get the whining noise that comes with a dogbox haha...

KillaFlop · Post by **KillaFlop** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 3:54 pm

i drive the same way as smorison does, tip all the way everyday...

but does it stuff up the gears or anything using tip all the time? it wasn't made to be driven like a dogbox i think... my box is beginning to 'clank' between gears

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ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 4:07 pm

It really doesn't matter if you change the gears (tiptronic mode) or you let the car do it all itself (fully automatic), it won't make any difference.

The thing to remember is that moving the tiptronic lever up or down doesn't actually change the gear, rather it is just a switch that tells the car to change the gear up or down. The auto gearbox then takes care of this request and changes the gear in the appropriate and optimal manner.

Although you initiate / request the gear change you don't actually perform it, the clever INVECS II system does all that and it also prevents you from damaging the gearbox, such as down-shifting when the revs are too high.

Post by **smorison** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 8:01 pm

KillaFlop wrote:i drive the same way as smorison does, tip all the way everyday...

but does it stuff up the gears or anything using tip all the time? it wasn't made to be driven like a dogbox i think... my box is beginning to 'clank' between gears

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time to replace your gearbox oil i think you'll find. i recommend the redline stuff its fantastic!!!!! its a little bit more expesnive than some but compare a few extra bucks to getting the box reco'd and its and easy decision

KillaFlop · Post by **KillaFlop** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:06 pm

redline stuff? where can i get some of this heavenly stuff?