Are FTOs over rated or under rated?

TimmyD · Post by **TimmyD** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:10 pm

Supplanter wrote:I think the FTO is under rated... I like the way it sh!ts people when they realise they aren't winning

LMAO Ditto

Tim

D-TRAIN · Post by **D-TRAIN** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:38 pm

Hey G1, is this your mate with the turbo Impreza RX?

I think it's definately under rated for what your get for the price you pay. Even if you spent some money on top of it, you're still up with a bargain.

I bought the FTO for its uniqueness, not so much in numbers nowadays but its looks. Who cares if it doesn't go as fast as it looks! Like you said, if I wanted a turbo I would've got one already.

I don't know where your mate got his stereotype views about FTO owners. I always downplay the performance of the FTO because I know there are faster cars out there. But you'd be hard-pressed to find a better-looking efficient car out there.

Radium · Post by **Radium** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:15 pm

Impreza RX hahahaha

nuff said.

It's like me talking to an owner of an F50, arguing that the Murcielago is better. Who gives a sh*t what he thinks.

G1 - next time you talk to this wanker, pat him on the head and ignore. Obviously he has no sense of style.

Post by **smorison** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:52 am

Are FTOs over rated or under rated?
Under rated 100% [ 16 ]
Over rated 0% [ 0 ]

Total Votes : 16

you don't think by any chance we are a tiny weee bit biased???? hahahaha

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:39 am

ruchi wrote:As we know the FTO is 150kw. As a comparison, based on information @ drive.com.au, back in 1994:

Imprezza GX - 76kw
Imprezza WRX (Turbo) - 155kw
Integra GSI - 107kw
Integra VTiR - 125kw
Celica - 99kw
Celica GT4 (Turbo) - 178kw

LOL

You want to talk about sh*t, in 1994 when the FTO came out the only way Subaru could beat it was with a turbo, and only by 5kw

Comparing apples to apples (naturally aspirated engines), the FTO had around 50% more power than the Honda and Toyota equivilant and roughly 100% more power than the Subaru!!!!!!!!! Let me repeat that: roughly 100% more power than the Subaru. The only thing that came close was the Honda Integra VTiR with 125kw.

Anyone trying to heap sh*t on the FTO and not comparing apples to apples is just a wanker!

Hey Ruchi

what about the

Nakaya Tune 2.5 Ltr GP version T - 300 Kw

Boris · Post by **Boris** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 9:23 am

I have been looking for a car for ages now, and the only thing that i like under 25k is the fto... even if you set your limit at 30k, I still can't find anything as sexy, even by todays standards.

There is absolutely nothing out there that has the looks combined with some decent performance.

People will always be people, some people like rice, some people like HP figures no matter what the specs of the car... and some people like us will always admire the all round package called the fto... and every mob will be biased against another... and you can't change that...

That's like trying to change my grandmas opinion about technology...

Like ruchi said, all that matters is our personal opinion of our car...
Just think, if everyone though highly of the fto, there would be a billion of them out there, just like there are skylines...

Just my 2cents, guys

G1 · Post by G1 » Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:30 pm

D-TRAIN wrote:Hey G1, is this your mate with the turbo Impreza RX?

nah, its another guy witha plain unmodified RX

my friend with turbo RS (2.5L) respects my car for what it is... i do enjoy the ride in his car once in a while though

smorison wrote:you don't think by any chance we are a tiny weee bit biased???? hahahaha

yeah true, we are all biased muthafockers

G1 · Post by G1 » Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:34 pm

dannyboyau wrote:
ruchi wrote:As we know the FTO is 150kw. As a comparison, based on information @ drive.com.au, back in 1994:

Imprezza GX - 76kw
Imprezza WRX (Turbo) - 155kw
Integra GSI - 107kw
Integra VTiR - 125kw
Celica - 99kw
Celica GT4 (Turbo) - 178kw

LOL

You want to talk about sh*t, in 1994 when the FTO came out the only way Subaru could beat it was with a turbo, and only by 5kw

Comparing apples to apples (naturally aspirated engines), the FTO had around 50% more power than the Honda and Toyota equivilant and roughly 100% more power than the Subaru!!!!!!!!! Let me repeat that: roughly 100% more power than the Subaru. The only thing that came close was the Honda Integra VTiR with 125kw.

Anyone trying to heap sh*t on the FTO and not comparing apples to apples is just a wanker!

Hey Ruchi

what about the

Nakaya Tune 2.5 Ltr GP version T - 300 Kw

but that wasnt made in 94, it was made in 2003

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 4:12 pm

oh yea i forgot about that bit

G_A_V · Post by **G_A_V** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:15 pm

yeah its mega under rated, people think cause the supra has twin turbos, and the fto has 0 that the fto sux, but they drive around in mummys commadore or daddys starlet, and think they are comparable. the fto is a brilliant sports car,and for anyone to question whether its a real sports car, obviusly has never driven one (even though he claims he has).
Lots of people try to tell me they heard ftos are slow, and then i say well race me, and i havent lost a race.

Redboost · Post by **Redboost** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 9:16 pm

The FTO is waaaay under-rated. All the people I know who bag FTOs drive turbo cars (180SXs, WRXs, S14/15s, Skylines) so obviously they like to compare on a HP basis. With the exception of maybe the S15, the FTO looks better than all the cars I've listed, and even then, the S15 and FTO are neck and neck in terms of looks. But then, 147 KWs from an NA engine, back in 1994, is nothing to sneeze at. I generally think those wankers who put down the FTO, do so cause it happens to lack a turbo and is FWD, unlike most other so-called performance vehicles like your skylines and rexys. But then again, these same wankers don't put down the Integra Type R for some reason.

Post by **smorison** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:07 pm

the only thing to note about AWD drives is that they can get a lot more power to the ground faster which is why WRX's dominate. they can launch at a lot higher rev's and punch away nice and quickly becuase of this.

Post by **smorison** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:11 pm

Redboost wrote: do so cause it happens to lack a turbo and is FWD, unlike most other so-called performance vehicles like your skylines and rexys.

yanno, i have no trouble what-so-ever keeping up with GTS-T's and 200's around corners (even ones that have had a lot spent on them), there have been instances on our late night cruises where i've gotten sick and tired of following slow arse turbo's that i've gone around them and off into the distance - much to the annoyance of the driver

a FTO that handles well and has an experienced driver can out perform more powerful cars.

Nathan Pilkington also proved this by being able to (when he kept the car on the track) beat s2000's around the trace track and other "performance jap cars".

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:45 pm

Well the ultimate proof that FTO can beat Skyline, WRX, & similar kind is look at RichardH & his team's result which he already posted.

Well here's the link anyway:

http://www.ftowa.com/html/motorsport/motorsport.html

mrdj1234 · Post by **mrdj1234** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:52 pm

I like the head turning

I've never enjoyed cruising more than since i got the FTO....

certainly here in Melb it has the advantage (when you're cruising) of it not being another:
a) fulli sik commondore
b) excel
c) over riced skyline (with BOV set so low that it can't get any pressure up and an owner who can't shift from 1st to 2nd) - these ones are great to drag too

cos they always lose the instant they press that clutch again
d) or another bloody WRX or wrx wannabe - cos i reckon less than 1/4 of the "WRX"s out there actually are

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:39 pm

I love the FTO

they all think they have a chance against an FTO when they line up with me.

scracy · Post by **scracy** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 7:35 pm

Hey G1 tell your mate ill line him up in his skyline,and watch him smile on the other side of his face!

payaya · Post by **payaya** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:33 pm

in my opinion? over rated.

I was expecting a lot more when i got mine. I dont know if mine is just bloody slow or thats how they are meant to be?

In other non FTO forums, the FTO is bagged for being overpriced, underperforming.

Main critisise the FTO for:

Slow
Too expensive
FWD
Girls car

The FTO is a good car, but its compared to other exotics which makes the FTO seem like a bad offer.

why? becuase everyone just cares about strait line speed. We live in a land where there are high capacity V8's also 6's everywhere. So i guess everyone seems they are slow, and thats all it takes to give them a bad name.

You got to think, even other cars in the FTO category, Celica, Integra etc are bagged not just the FTO.

Everyone has their own opinion. My mates drive turbos big six's, thats why i have this opinion about the FTO, other people might have different opinions as they have different cars to compare it to. But in my group of friends, its respected, but just not for its strait line speed, and thats all it takes for them to bag it.

Why i think they are slow? Every car in my family beats it in a strait line, even my mums car. Even when the quoted FTO 0-100 time is meant to be better.

I've dragged other FTO's in my mums car and have beaten them. I have a mate in sydney with one, i beat it.

It does draw attention though, chicks love it, thats enough for me

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Sat Mar 20, 2004 9:38 pm

payaya, I really don't understand why you own an FTO. I've read a number of your comments and a lot of them seem to be quite negative towards the FTO.

If you don't like it, why own it?

It really doesn't matter how fast or slow it is straight line, around corners, against your mates car, against your mums car, all that matters is that it is a special car to you. I don't give a rats arse what anyone else thinks about the car, I love it and that why I own it. So why do you own it, coz it certainly seems like you don't love it?

G1 · Post by G1 » Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:14 am

papaya, i appreciate your honest answer and daring to give a different perspective... is your FTO tip or manual though??