Compliance for the FTO

Guni_GuGu · Post by **Guni_GuGu** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:07 am

As some of you may know, I've been trying to track down, the right FTO for me.. i was really keen on a silver manual one, which is well, getting pretty hard to find.

Anyways, I found this website at Prestige Motorsport (I think they work as like a broker importer thing), and the guy Geoff said "compliance for the FTO under the new import scheme still looks to be more than 6 months away. Otherwise we could certainly assist you for your budget. Compliance is the only thing stopping us."

So does this mean, no one, can import FTO's for at least 6months? Can anyone shed some lite on this for me? As, he did show me, some of the auctions they are having in Japan, and, I have to say, WOW! They're are some real nice FT's down there. And a silver manual one too!!!!

Guni_GuGu · Post by **Guni_GuGu** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:09 am

And with that said, who wants a shot at translating this for me?

I'm most curious about the stuff in the bottom left hand cornor.

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:39 pm

Ok i think what Geoff trying to say is that it will take him 6mths before he can get the RAW (the new compliance scheme).

It is a long painfull process, as i'm helping my mechanic to get his since last yr. I will summaries it as follow.

What "workshop' have to do is meet the ISO9001 regulation (is like a giant bible) then there will be two inspection, once they pass the inspection, the workshop then can bring one car in as an "sample" do the compliance & had the final inspection on the car & the workshop.

Once all these finish, the "sample" car become an compliance car, which mean they can start to compliance that exact model. And meanwhile they can bring other "sample" in & get it ready for compliance inspection, so its really up to the shop which car to pick as an "sample".

Guni_GuGu · Post by **Guni_GuGu** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:13 pm

I am completely lost now, sorry

So, could he use my car as a sample car? How long do you think it'll be before I could possibly drive the import?

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:45 pm

I don't think they want to, thats why they said it will takes 6mths.

Daz_FTO · Post by **Daz_FTO** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:12 am

From what i have heard - FTO's will become a rare breed to import due to costs in getting it to an Australian standard. SOmething to do with costs to get the car to Stock Standard condition. I guess there might be a lower profit margin on them compared to other imports....

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:26 am

Has this car been in an accident? (all the XX marks at the front)

What sort of $$$ have they guesstimated for this one, to import and get on road in Aus?

It's done over 94,300 k's, so aside from compliance there's a good chance it will also need a major service.

Do you know what year it is?

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:20 am

it is a grade R ( which means accident ) and has a B grade interior, 5 speed manual, they have actually not filled out everything lots of boxes not written in

Guni_GuGu · Post by **Guni_GuGu** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:26 am

The guy was saying, it would be about $24k, if we were to import it... but whats the point, if you can't get compliance for it? WTF is the point?

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:40 am

WTF!

$24K for a FTO with 94,300kms, panel damage and B grade interior!

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:50 am

OMG this got 2 b the most rip off place/person/car i've ever heard. $24k?? Mate i'm sure u think all the one you seen in this forum before are MEGA BARGAIN now.

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:47 pm

the double xx denotes replaced panel the w means repaired and the number next to the w means grade of repair higher the number the bigger the dent w3 is large dent repaired u is not repaired so a u1 is a small ding

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:50 pm

How to Read The Auction Sheet

Auction Grade

Read about Auction Grade>>
Equipment

Here is the list of some of the abbreviations in the auction sheet.
AC or A/C : Air conditioner AAC : Climate cotrol air conditioner
AT or FAT : Automatic transmission CAT : Column automatic transmission
F5 : Manual (5-speed) trasmission 　

A1 : A scrape which is the size of a fist.
A2 : A scrape which is the size of two palms.
A3 : A scrape which is more than size A2.
E1 : A dent which is barely visible.
E2 : A few dents which are barely visible.
E3 : Some dents which are barely visible.
U1 : A dent which is the size of a thumb.
U2 : A dent which is the size of a palm.
U3 : A dent which is more than size U2.
Y1 : A tear which is the size of a thumb.
Y2 : A tear which is the size of a palm.
Y3 : A tear which is more than size Y2.
W1 : A panel which has been repaired slightly, and is in good condition.
W2 : A panel which has been repaired slightly, and has a slightly wave.
W3 : A panel which has been repaired slightly, and has a conspicuous wave.
S1 : Rust which is the size of a fist.
S2 : Rust which is more than size S1.
X : A panel which needs to be replaced.
XX : A panel which has been replaced.

　

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:58 pm

Auction grade
Grade 8-6 : As new condition, no dents and scratches, very low Ks and higher the Grade the younger the car
Grade 5 : As new condition, no dents and scratches.
Grade 4.5 : Excellent condition, almost no dents and scratches.
Grade 4 : Good condition, a few slight dents and scratches needing minor Attention.
Grade 3.5 : Fair condition with some dents and scratches requiring repairs.
Grade 3 : Average condition with obvious dents and scratches requiring extensive repairs.
Grade 2 : Below normal condition.
Grade 1 : Bad condition.
Grade 0 : Accident car
Grade R : Accident repaired car
Grade A1 : modified car

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:08 pm

great stuff dannyboyau, steve should probably add that to an importing section, in the FTO Information area.

Guni_GuGu · Post by **Guni_GuGu** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:47 pm

Lol, I you's don't even know, what it's coming with, that would be 24k on road, but it's not like any of you's could read the extra features bit... all you's read was GPX 5sp manual, and 94k's.

Let me show you a picture, then you can tell me if it's still considered a rip-off...

Now is 24 still considered a rip-off? Really? DO you even know what year the car was first registered?

Anyways, doesn't make a lick a difference, compliance for fto's, is basically impossible... so talking about trying to get this one, is just plain stupid.

FTO338 · Post by **FTO338** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:57 pm

Sorry to tell u this, in order to do compliance with RAW, the car had to be stock, & all the aftermarket accessories must be destroy with proof.

So basically is a waste of time looking for anything else except for a stock one.

Its illegal to keep any of those after market parts, so be carefull if they say they can keep it for you. You might end up losing your new car instead.

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:59 pm

yes it is still a rip off, i know what price they sell for at auction in Japan

considering it is a 94 - 96 model

the front bar is damaged and part is missing

this car will sell for less than 10000 AUD FOB at auction in Japan probably closer to 8000 AUD

Any modifications would have to be taken off and replaced with original items, if there was a workshop that could comply FTO's

This would make this car more expensive again

when importing a car that is not 15 years old you want it to be as close to stock as possible, or your compliance costs will go up and you wont get the after market parts as they have to be destroyed by the workshop that complies the car when they replace them with the new original parts.

dannyboyau · Post by **dannyboyau** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:01 pm

looks like we both were writing a answer at the same time

didnt mean to repeat what you said FTO338

ruchi · Post by **ruchi** » Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:24 pm

So if I'm not mistaken it's a Silver FTO, probably around '95, with a VERY damaged veilside kit and a carbon fibre bonnet, that has done over 94,300kms.

You should be able to pick one of these up in Aus, for less, or do one up to the same standard for less.

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