FTO - baby seats?

burg0 · Post by **burg0** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:58 pm

Hey guys, quick question

can ftos have baby seats in them, i have been told they can but need confirmation, any help would be appreciated cheers guys

kid_dynamite · Post by **kid_dynamite** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:47 pm

I can confirm they will.. had to fit one last week to transport a friend and their daughter. Rear seatbelts are a bit of a stretch to secure around the harness, but that mght have just been the actual harness design more than anything.

jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:58 pm

i was under the impression that all cars needed to be able to have baby seats in them

mr-charisma · Post by **mr-charisma** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 1:43 pm

jonowong wrote:i was under the impression that all cars needed to be able to have baby seats in them

I'd say when they're built, they would have to comply with the standards of the time, some cars would be different, or not as easy to put baby seats in - especially if they're fairly old.
If you go to your local fire station they will install and check your baby seat for free.

Also, if you're in a crash you must replace the baby seat

FTO-101 · Post by **FTO-101** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:29 pm

FTO's originally can't fit a baby seat but when they get complianced for use on Australian roads they have one fitted

virtumonde · Post by **virtumonde** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:04 pm

Yes i can confirm this. My FTO is under going compliance this week. Baby seat anchor's must be put in.

burg0 · Post by **burg0** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:50 pm

thanks for the help guys, one other question, what do the fittings look like, im told mine have been taken out of my car and i need to get ahold of some, are they bolts/brackets? and do they bolt into the parcel tray, thanks again

Aspenmai · Post by **Aspenmai** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:44 pm

lol I thought you were asking if they could FIT a seat..

like everyone said they are required to have a point in the car for each rear seat (ie three in the FTO).

If yours have been removed (eg had a new parcel shelf put it) that actually means the car is ADR non-compliant and hence defectable -> unroadworthy bla bla bla.

They are basically a mounting hook, I'm sure someone can post pics but as it is a load bearing thing it's supposed to be done by a qualified professional (eg engineer). What state are you in?

-kid dynamite (posting on my gf's PC)

burg0 · Post by **burg0** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:37 pm

im in qld, and i understand it's defectable, the main reason i'm trying to find out is cause a guy is interested in my car but it has to be able to fit a baby seat, thanks the the help guys, if anyone does take the time to take pics it would be greatly appreciated, but if not im sure i can find them

scarecrow · Post by **scarecrow** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:46 am

Yep it can fit a babyseat... if you remove your rear parcel shelf you'll probably notice that it's a complete f**king bitch to take off, why? Because of the posts installed to allow for a babyseat as a part of compliancing, which can sometimes be so long that it's actually impossible to remove the shelf at all.

Pretty sure these are riveted in.

scarecrow · Post by **scarecrow** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:50 am

http://www.ftoaustralia.com/modules.php ... pic&t=6467

Post by **BorepYano** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:44 pm

Aspenmai wrote:
like everyone said they are required to have a point in the car for each rear seat (ie three in the FTO).

-kid dynamite (posting on my gf's PC)

u mean 2 in the FTO right?

kid_dynamite · Post by **kid_dynamite** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:13 pm

BorepYano wrote:
u mean 2 in the FTO right?

Depends on what it was complied and rego'd as. The two FTOs my gf has had were registered as a five seater. Note that in the unfortunate instance that you have to undergo a full-on defect check they will look at the number of seats registered to the car and the number of points.

burgo - contact QLD Transport for a list of 'approved persons' - they are the ppl who can sign off on the installation of the anchorage points.

Post by **BorepYano** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:38 pm

kid_dynamite wrote:Depends on what it was complied and rego'd as. The two FTOs my gf has had were registered as a five seater.

lol cool, didnt know that, um... are FTOs meant to be 5 seats? (or were they just slack when they complianced your gf's 2?)

sry to be off topic here

kid_dynamite · Post by **kid_dynamite** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:07 pm

BorepYano wrote: lol cool, didnt know that, um... are FTOs meant to be 5 seats? (or were they just slack when they complianced your gf's 2?)

sry to be off topic here

They are five-seater from Japan (hence the middle seatbelt), but when they get import approval in Australia ADR requirements specify certain space requirements in the rear seats for passengers. Sometimes workshops will just not bother and get it registered as a 4 seater. E.g the middle seat in a Supra does not meet the ADR requirements for a five seater without some modifications.

I've seen it with a lot of imports, not just FTOs. Bit rare these days, but it can happen.

jonowong · Post by **jonowong** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:44 pm

i dont have a middle seat belt!!! where can i get one put in?!

Post by **dstocks** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:09 pm

You cant. The FTO can only registered as a 4 seater. Besides, have a look at the rear seat. It would be quite uncomfortable to sit on. It has only been designed to fit 2 on the back seat anyways - and legless dwarves at that.

Post by **BorepYano** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:21 am

jonowong wrote:i dont have a middle seat belt!!! where can i get one put in?!

lol that was what i was thinking when i asked about it