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Two things..

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:08 pm
by kazbah
Anybody got an idea of how much I'd be up for to replace the CV joint? I'm unsure if its the outer or inner CV joint thou... Secondly what will happen if I dont get it done, besides the contant knocking when I turn the wheel?

Hmmm

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:44 pm
by dstocks
Is the CV boot split. Because if it is and there is no grease in there, bad stuff will happen if you leave it too long.

Ill hopefully be putting a guide together on just this topic in the next week as I have to replace both CV boots (which requires taking out the drive shafts).

If you dont mind getting your hands dirty you could wait till then.....

As an aside, I did get a quote on labour to replace a CV boot (passengers side) and it was going to be around $135. This does not include parts though.

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:03 pm
by Bennoz
Nah the actual outer CV joint is shot *click!pop!click!pop!* when doin' a tight turn. Kaz you could try my CV guy - Turner driveshafts in Brookvale. I may be able to pick it up if he's got one...hes just near Herman.

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:08 pm
by kazbah
Thanks Ben, I'll give him a call :wink: And I guess it would be prudent of me to check if the boot is split too :?

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:19 pm
by Bennoz
kazbah wrote:Thanks Ben, I'll give him a call :wink: And I guess it would be prudent of me to check if the boot is split too :?
The CV's can wear from general wear & tear (to the point yours is at Kaz) but if the boot has split, it just accelerates the whole wear process. Split boots can also ber nasty in that grease can spray out over your brake rotor as well... dodgy. If that had happened mind you, you'd see the grease & you'd smell it burning on the disc. So dont be too concerned.

A new CV kit comes with boot, straps etc everything you need. I'll dig up that part number shortly :wink:

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:23 pm
by mxysxy
Correct me if I am wrong,

CV joint is both ends of drive shaft? Gearbox side called inner (which is a green box type of thing in FTO) and other side that connects to the hub (with the tightest fricken nut ever) is outer.

The reason I ask , below part looks just like outer part of the driveshaft, and it is called CV joint.
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:26 pm
by kazbah
Cheers :wink:

Actually

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:26 pm
by dstocks
Actually, if the outer boot splits, it can also spit grease onto the exhaust. Thats what has happened to mine.

Isnt the outer joint the same component as has the boot on it????. Have to take both shafts out (as both are split to change the boots. Thats why I though a guide might help......

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:54 pm
by Nacho
Bennoz wrote: A new CV kit comes with boot, straps etc everything you need. I'll dig up that part number shortly :wink:
Yes please........price on the kit too please? And where to buy? :twisted:

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:56 pm
by khunjeng
cost me $80 from Lee in Melbourne to replace both...

Ben and i had a thread on this last year or the start of this year...

spits grease everywhere...I'm still cleaning it up off the block!!

I have to do my steering rack one..its split now...

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:03 pm
by Nacho
Thanks man.......that's actually really helpful info.

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:02 pm
by mxysxy
mxysxy wrote:Correct me if I am wrong,

CV joint is both ends of drive shaft? Gearbox side called inner (which is a green box type of thing in FTO) and other side that connects to the hub (with the tightest fricken nut ever) is outer.

The reason I ask , below part looks just like outer part of the driveshaft, and it is called CV joint.
Camskill Link
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:20 pm
by Bennoz
khunjeng wrote:I have to do my steering rack one..its split now...
Passenger side is easy, drivers side is a ***t!

Still got slice mark scars up the insides of my arms :lol:
mxysxy wrote:Correct me if I am wrong,

CV joint is both ends of drive shaft? Gearbox side called inner (which is a green box type of thing in FTO) and other side that connects to the hub (with the tightest fricken nut ever) is outer.

The reason I ask , below part looks just like outer part of the driveshaft, and it is called CV joint.
What you have pictured is a CV joint (outer joint) Its more of a terminology thing that gets people confused here.

The inner joint is predominantly reffered to as a universal joint. It only has to cope with movement on an X & Y axis. Ie it spins, and copes with the shaft moving up & down as the suspension travels. This is the end that connects to the gearbox.

Where as the outer joint is reffered to as a CV (constant velocity) joint. It copes with X, Y & Z axis movements. It spins, moves up & down, then left & right with the steering. Both are grease pack & rubber boot covered joints in the FTO.

This is an FTO driveshaft:

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Here is a CV joint (outer joint for those of you who are getting bungled by the terminology)

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Here is a Universal joint (or inner CV as they are being called)

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Some other applications of universal joints does not require them to be grease packed & boot covered - such as RWD driveshafts (pictured.)

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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:27 pm
by kazbah
Ok back to basics... If dstock does the "How to" and I get the parts... Is it doable as a weekend project? No "special" tools involved?

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:30 pm
by Bennoz
Yeah its pretty easy done. When i move into my new place, Im taking the entire workshop with me (which is currently stashed at my olds place) that includes the compressor....so big tough nuts & bolts become a non issue. I reckon it'd take me 4 hours to do both.

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:33 pm
by kazbah
Bennoz wrote:Yeah its pretty easy done. When i move into my new place, Im taking the entire workshop with me (which is currently stashed at my olds place) that includes the compressor....so big tough nuts & bolts become a non issue. I reckon it'd take me 4 hours to do both.
Eh what about no compressor, limited tools.. big workshop thou?? :? Not doable as my weekend project then??

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:46 pm
by Bennoz
kazbah wrote:
Bennoz wrote:Yeah its pretty easy done. When i move into my new place, Im taking the entire workshop with me (which is currently stashed at my olds place) that includes the compressor....so big tough nuts & bolts become a non issue. I reckon it'd take me 4 hours to do both.
Eh what about no compressor, limited tools.. big workshop thou?? :? Not doable as my weekend project then??
I give that a big fat NO! I just dont like your chances of cracking the castle nut with a shifter :wink:

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:02 pm
by kazbah
Bennoz wrote:
kazbah wrote:
Bennoz wrote:Yeah its pretty easy done. When i move into my new place, Im taking the entire workshop with me (which is currently stashed at my olds place) that includes the compressor....so big tough nuts & bolts become a non issue. I reckon it'd take me 4 hours to do both.
Eh what about no compressor, limited tools.. big workshop thou?? :? Not doable as my weekend project then??
I give that a big fat NO! I just dont like your chances of cracking the castle nut with a shifter :wink:
Hmmmm............... *goes off and rethinks getting compressor*

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:19 pm
by Bennoz
If you get a compressor Im movin' in! :lol:

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:30 am
by kazbah
Dont be surprised... is on my wish list!!! :P