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No Petrol Day
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:23 pm
by AJ
I'm guessing a few of you may have had this but it's worth posting anyway. This sort of thing did work in the UK when I was there, we made it every Tuesday if I remember right. Also the farmers and truck drivers blocked the oil refinerarys from letting the petrol tankers out. The result? The prices fell buy around 10 pence. Lets give it ago! Thanks.
IT HAS BEEN CALCULATED THAT IF EVERYONE IN AUSTRALIA DID NOT PURCHASE A DROP OF PETROL FOR ONE DAY AND ALL AT THE SAME TIME, THE OIL COMPANIES WOULD CHOKE ON THEIR STOCKPILES.
AT THE SAME TIME IT WOULD HIT THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY WITH A NET LOSS OVER 4.6 BILLION DOLLARS WHICH AFFECTS THE BOTTOM LINES OF THE OIL COMPANIES.
THEREFORE THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 22nd HAS BEEN FORMALLY DECLARED "STICK IT UP THEIR BEHIND" DAY AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION SHOULD NOT BUY A SINGLE DROP OF PETROL THAT DAY.
THE ONLY WAY THIS CAN BE DONE IS IF YOU FORWARD THIS E-MAIL TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN AND AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT.
WAITING ON THE GOVERNMENT TO STEP IN AND CONTROL THE PRICES IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REDUCTION AND CONTROL IN PRICES THAT THE ARAB NATIONS PROMISED TWO WEEKS AGO?
REMEMBER ONE THING, NOT ONLY IS THE PRICE OF PETROL GOING UP BUT AT THE SAME TIME AIRLINES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES, TRUCKING COMPANIES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES WHICH EFFECTS PRICES ON EVERYTHING THAT IS SHIPPED. THINGS LIKE FOOD, CLOTHING, BUILDING SUPPLIES MEDICAL SUPPLIES ETC. WHO PAYS IN THE END? WE DO!
WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IF THEY DON'T GET THE MESSAGE AFTER ONE DAY, WE WILL DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.
SO DO YOUR PART AND SPREAD THE WORD. FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW. MARK YOUR CALENDARS AND MAKE SEPTEMBER 22nd A DAY THAT THE CITIZENS OF AUSTRALIA "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH"
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:13 pm
by scarecrow
Sigh. That's stupid. Oil companies know that demand is always going to be there. Even if everyone stopped buying petrol for a week we'd still need to fill up sooner or later. They will not lower their prices.
Also the only thing this will do is force prices up as individual service stations seek to recoop lost profit over the day of boycotting.
If anyone goes through with this then I will hunt you down and slap you. Petrol prices are rising, there is nothing you can do about it. Seriously, get the f**k over it or go get a LPG conversion.
Also inflated petrol prices at the moment are the only thing stopping the RBA hiking up interest rates again. If petrol prices fall then all of you with outstanding personal loans or mortgages are going to worse off anyway.
edit: why can't I say f**k? we're all mature enough to deal with curse words, i want to be able to f**king swear
edit2: haha i can say f**king
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:19 pm
by kingo
Seen this heaps of times
I dont think it will make much of a difference, all I know is ill be most likely selling my beloved 180sx for a bike in a few months if everything continues
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:01 pm
by HiRAEdd
UMARRRRR! Scarecrow said a rude word!
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:08 pm
by strat
This normally goes around via email about once a year. Sounds good but nothing ever happens. And if everyone knows about it, so too will the oil companies so it won't be a surprise and they won't react.
Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:57 pm
by Bennoz
Personally Im looking forward to this day:
We all know that it is a sin for an Islamic male to see any woman other than his wife naked, and that he must commit suicide if he does.
So next Sunday at 4:00 PM Eastern time, all Australian women are asked to walk out of their house completely naked to help weed out any neighborhood terrorists. Circling your block for one hour is recommended for this anti-terrorist effort.
All men are to position themselves in lawn chairs in front of their house to prove they are not terrorists, and to demonstrate that they think it's okay to see nude women other than their wife and to show support for all Australian women.
And since the Koran also does not approve of alcohol, a cold six-pack at your side is further proof of your anti-terrorist sentiment.
The Australian Government appreciates your efforts to root out terrorists and applauds your participation in this anti terrorist activity.
God bless Australia
Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:26 am
by mxysxy
Bennoz wrote:Personally Im looking forward to this day:
We all know that it is a sin for an Islamic male to see any woman other than his wife naked, and that he must commit suicide if he does.
So next Sunday at 4:00 PM Eastern time, all Australian women are asked to walk out of their house completely naked to help weed out any neighborhood terrorists. Circling your block for one hour is recommended for this anti-terrorist effort.
All men are to position themselves in lawn chairs in front of their house to prove they are not terrorists, and to demonstrate that they think it's okay to see nude women other than their wife and to show support for all Australian women.
And since the Koran also does not approve of alcohol, a cold six-pack at your side is further proof of your anti-terrorist sentiment.
The Australian Government appreciates your efforts to root out terrorists and applauds your participation in this anti terrorist activity.
God bless Australia
This is the funniest post I have ever read in this forum.
I wont be offended at all.
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:54 am
by Jase
Funny sh*t Bennoz. Now that's an email that should be forwarded around. As for petrol prices, well what do you do. Cars don't run on fresh air. Not yet anyways.
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:07 am
by Bennoz
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:06 am
by Rich UK
yuse biatches don't know expensive petrol, its over £1 a litre here now, another blockade looming that pisses of the entire country and causes a nats piss ripple in oil profits. Cost of Petrol is generally down to tax, it all has to be paid so your politicians can drive nice cars and live in big houses. If you don't buy gas today, you will buy it tomorrow, where's the statement there?
Bennoz, class you am de man!
the rest of you suck up the pain smile and know that as long as you drive a car and have a job your government are giving you both barrels in the tradesman's!
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:14 pm
by FOULZ
hey, if u do that stupid thing AJ is sugesting then i can have a day off!!!
dont blame the servo guys or the owners of the servo!!! it is the oil companies and them alone....
pretty retarded just suggesting this act...
People must think before they comment coz u just dont know who your gunna offend, understand.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:25 am
by wild_flower
Bennoz wrote:Personally Im looking forward to this day:
We all know that it is a sin for an Islamic male to see any woman other than his wife naked, and that he must commit suicide if he does.
So next Sunday at 4:00 PM Eastern time, all Australian women are asked to walk out of their house completely naked to help weed out any neighborhood terrorists. Circling your block for one hour is recommended for this anti-terrorist effort.
All men are to position themselves in lawn chairs in front of their house to prove they are not terrorists, and to demonstrate that they think it's okay to see nude women other than their wife and to show support for all Australian women.
And since the Koran also does not approve of alcohol, a cold six-pack at your side is further proof of your anti-terrorist sentiment.
The Australian Government appreciates your efforts to root out terrorists and applauds your participation in this anti terrorist activity.
God bless Australia
GEEEEE Ben!
most terrorist sacrifice heaps for their belief, so if those guys were to think of the bigga picture and avoid detection
~they have to
force themselves to stare at all those naked women and
painstakingly down a cold 6 pack!!!
>now thats extreme!
and to think that Bennoz does it soooo often (actually abit too often!)..... hmmm your not trying to avoid terrorist detection are u Ben???
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:48 am
by MADFTO
And here a rant I wrote about these chain letters around 6 months ago.
Mind you, it hasn't been critiqued by anyone, so I don't know if there's any holes in it but you'll get the jist:
I hate chains =P They just feed on public ignorance. Sorry about the rant guys, but sometimes, I just get sick of the crap that gets spread around.
Think about this, who are you going to be hurting more? The Fuel companies? Or the Franchisees that own the stations? You'll probably end up seeing BP and Mobil Stations going belly up than the fuel prices dropping.
You've also got to think, a fuel station will have bought their weekly supply at a set price. To cut even, they need to sell that fuel at a few cents higher than price (operating costs). If they don't do this, they'll make a loss on the fuel. Now most businesses can put up with making losses in the short term. However, to cover for the drop in demand, they'll buy less fuel the week after.
Now, where do you think this demand goes??? To other stations, who'll be loving this extra revenue. However, at the same time the inital influx of demand will probably deplete their weekly supply fairly quickly, this'll cause a distortion. Now if I was a smart petrol station owner, I would be thinking, hey, I've already made my profit for the week, I'm running low on fuel. Lets just raise the price to stem the demand to my station until I get the next fuel shipment in.
So you end up with BP and Mobil having the cheapest petrol around, which wouldn't have changed much on price because of the floor price the station owners are dealt with. The only way to drop prices in a free market place is to drop demand overall in the marketplace, and that means, not buying petrol anywhere.
However, this isn't really a true free market. Sure, the petrol stations are competing against each other, however there are limited suppliers. Anyone who has done micro economics will recognise this as an Oligopoly, but no need to go into that, the above points should make it evident enough that these sort of tactics will not work. To truely invoke "people power" you have to abstain, not just shift preferences.
However, I don't believe "people power" will work in this situation anyway.
Think about this, you've got to be kidding me when you think that the biggest revenue stream that Crude Oil Company has is retail sales. Putting all your eggs in one basket so to speak is going to put you at significant risk and companies of those sizes aren't going to do this. It's bad business.
I know at least the ExxonMobil do provide commerical airline fuel for the aviation industry. Not only this, refineries distil many products used in many manufacturing sectors. Where do you think the raw materials for plastics come from?
Anyways, I believe the money made in commerical sector sales would far outweigh profits made in the private sector. Half your petrol cost is excise that goes to the government. Another little bit goes to the profits made by the station owner and their operating costs.
In the end, Oil companies get whatever price they set, it's the station owners that get squeezed in all of this.
Sorry about posting something so long, but I do hate chain email, especially about fuel prices, smacks of total ignorance.
What even gets me here is that one day isn't going to do jack, everyone's going to buy the same amount of petrol to go about their daily lives, they'll just line up their day that they'll buy their petrol to not coincide with that day.
If Oil companies were to going to be an ass about it, they'll just make the price rise on that day whenever it is. No loss in their eyes.
Edit: Just thought, they can't realisitically do that, unless they've got large reserves. The price for refined petroleum in Australia is slaved to Singapore. Regardless, the oil companies don't really care what happens to the reserves of the petrol station outlets, they're in the business of selling bulk to outlets, once they've sold the petrol, they don't care, they've got their money.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:14 am
by FTO338
I agree with you Eric, Petrol company can alway rase the price on the day after, that would be even worst, as people who did the "strike" is most likely to fill up the next day.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:26 pm
by AJ
Hey, it's not that stupid FOULZ. Like I said, we did this in the UK on the same day ever week and also the truckers and farmers blocked the oil refineries so that no petrol could be delivered to the servo's. We didn't mind, even though lots of garages had to close for a few days because they ran out of fuel and there were miles of cars queing at some that did have fuel left. We got a result in the end. And before anyone brings up "What about ambulances and fire engines etc." the people blocking the oil refineries did let truckes out who were taking fule for the emergency services. The police didn't even move them on because they understood and were on our side. Eventually the prices slowly rised back but for a while we had them by the balls.
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:29 pm
by Teania
My personal opinion..... I too disagree with this. Australia is a big place and to co-ordinate something effective - you would need to advertise it on TV - that will alert all the fuel stations and oil companies, they'll shut up shop for the day - then charge more the next day.
In the whole scheme of things, I think the only people that will get hurt is the fuel stations and their employees..... the big oil companies can always sell their fuel to someone....
Eventually though- we are going to need fuel, then comes into play the basic law of economics - and the more we NEED something - the more we are going to have to pay. No fuel - no cars. Better to picket the government and get them to cut the high tax on fuel....
Alternatively - public transport is probably the better alternative....... better for the environment too
Just my few cents worth - or $1.52 in the current scheme of things
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:27 am
by MADFTO
I don't know about blocking fuel refineries. That just seems illegal for some reason and the police not taking any action, they're supposed to be impartial *shakes head*
People can be a bunch of greedy selfish hypocrits when they want to be.
I'm just wondering where these people will be when all our fuel reserves dry up and petrol prices are in the stratosphere =)
I see high prices as a good thing, it'll force people to do something about their habits and not be so lazy and start organising car pools and stuff.
I just find it really sad that people will resort to fill and runs, it doesn't speak well for our society at all. Just for $50 . . .
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:23 pm
by Slither
I've heard a few people going on about how you can save money by using public transport. Yeah thats great for people who HAVE IT!!
I'm living on phillip island and let me tell you if i had to rely on public transport to get to and from work i'd be stuffed. Fact is that some people can't use public transport. Where does that leave us hey Government???
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:58 pm
by FOULZ
ok AJ, well have a no fuel day or what ever the f**k u called it!
you obviously didnt understand what i was trying to say...
if u suggest this day and everyone does it, then i will not meet my daily fuel sales and then i make no money to pay my staff and so im out of pocket.
tell me something AJ, what do u do for work?
what do your parents do for work?
im not trying to pick a fight i just want to explain something to you.
Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:54 pm
by sxcfto
UMARRRRR!
Im still getting a laugh out of this word umarrrrrrrrrrrrr !
My god I havent heard that since Primary school lol
thats so cute !
