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Advice on speeding ticket please.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:54 pm
by AJ
A friend of mine was test driving a car today and got caught doing 143kmh in a 90 zone. The dealer who was with him said to tell the cops that the accelorator stuck and my friend had to change lanes to avoid driving into someone. The delaer said that he could get a mechanics report to say that the accelorator had failed and stuck.

It is on police video from inside the cop car.

My mate is looking at $1550 fine and 6 points. Does he take it or try and contest it with the mechanics reports?

Thanks guys.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:37 pm
by wannaeclipse
yeah of corse you should contest it!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont let the pigs take his money.....

another thing you could do is email the or ring the cops and ask for a certificate to show that the tool that he used was calerbrated to the correct standard or ask for the certificate that shows the cop is able to operated it!!

half the cops cannot provide this info

i managed to get off a ticket after i was caught doing 93 in a 50 all because they could not provide the info i requested!!!

hope this helps!!!

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:02 pm
by AJ
ok, thanks for the advice wannaeclipse. Anyone got any more?

The cops gave him a card and he has to arrange an appointment to go and view the video, would thi be a good time to ask for certificates etc?

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:31 pm
by EURO
if your caught doing 50kph over the limit... then I think your in trouble and deservadly so... very surprised the dealer didnt comment when he was speeding?


I dont think the cops are going to buy that the accelerator was caught.... esspecially if they wree watching him for a while.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:32 pm
by OC
Isnt 45 k's and over a loos of your licence? :?

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:54 pm
by AJ
OC wrote:Isnt 45 k's and over a loos of your licence? :?
No, just the fine and points.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:57 pm
by AJ
[quote="EURO"]if your caught doing 50kph over the limit... then I think your in trouble and deservadly so... very surprised the dealer didnt comment when he was speeding?quote]

Apparently the dealer was a bit of a hoon too. He had been driving it even harder, it was on the trip back that they changed places and my mate got done. :roll:

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:11 pm
by EURO
45+ wow, 25 and over here in vic you lose your licence....

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:02 am
by Chiangstar
AJ wrote:
OC wrote:Isnt 45 k's and over a loos of your licence? :?
No, just the fine and points.
are you sure about that? ive heard otherwise...

simon

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:47 am
by MrFT000
i dunno...
im generally to the thinking, if your speeding, then cop it on the chin, pay the fine and move on.
if you honestly werent speeding, then gather your evidence, and present it in court.
and good luck.

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:56 am
by AJ
Chiangstar wrote:
AJ wrote:
OC wrote:Isnt 45 k's and over a loos of your licence? :?
No, just the fine and points.
are you sure about that? ive herd otherwise...

simon
That's all it says on the ticket. He can pay up or contest it.

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:55 am
by mrx
MrFT000 wrote:i dunno...
im generally to the thinking, if your speeding, then cop it on the chin, pay the fine and move on.
if you honestly werent speeding, then gather your evidence, and present it in court.
and good luck.
Totally agree. Going that fast on a public road is just asking for trouble.

It's not like they didn't know what they were doing was completley illegal.

This is what is wrong with the world you know - very few people are prepared to accept responsibility for their actions. Always looking for a way out.

Cop it and deal with the consequences.

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:29 am
by AJ
Looking at the RTA web site it does look like a 6 month ban actually.

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:00 pm
by BuCkEt
IF you do decide to go the route of using faked mech reports than you'd better hope the police call that bluff.

Otherwise he might even be up for fraud or something similar?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:12 pm
by Bennoz
It is a 6 month loss - trust me :evil:

Accelerator got stuck HA!
Thats about as good as the old 'tree' that popped up in the middle of the road...
I reckon your best bet would be to ask for all the certifcations on the gun.
Also query all the other variables, such as did they have the reading done over the required time period (which is 3 seconds.) Was the reading taken parrallel to the road (legal) or was it shot at an angle (not legal)
What were the weather conditions on the day? Bad weather can screw up the old radar readings. Was it a radar or laser pickup? Lots of questions they cant provide answers to may be your only shot at it...

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:50 pm
by AJ
My mates noticed that the copper has not signed the ticket. Will this make a difference?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:52 pm
by wannaeclipse
heres one good piece of advice

not sure about ausie but in NZ if the cop is not wearing his hat when he gives you a ticket... then it is not a ticket the reason is that his hat symbolises the queen.. so infact he is representing the queen!!!!!!!!

i know it sounds F%$K but it is true

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:09 pm
by jonowong
i need advice aswell, i was caught speeding on the queens birthday long weekend on the fridayi got caught doing 68 in a 40 school zone dropping some friends off at cheltneham girls, so i got busted for 15km+.... this was in peak hour traffic and everyone was going about 60 and everyone was basically bumper to bumper, so when i see the 40 sign u cant expect me to slow down to 40 from 60 straight away can u? there is a car about 2metres away from my rear bumper? why would i need to speed anyway i was at my distination (cheltneham girls) hence the 40 zone, can someone give me some advice on what i should do, btw the cop spelt my name wrong on the fine

any advice anyone please?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:37 pm
by wannaeclipse
how were you caught by a cop? of speed camera? if by a cop did you look at his lock on ? the first thing i would do is request the cops log book.. the reason i say this is because every morning the cop is soposed to test his radar equiptment. So his log book will say if he has or not ( half the cops out there dont do this )... if you were caught but a speed camera on a pole the request the picture if there is another car in the picture the you will not have to pay because they cant prove that it was your car speeding!!!

cheers

Jonathan

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:46 pm
by Teania
Hi AJ

Sorry - but I think both your friend and the dealer deserve - at the very least - to lose their licence. In addition to the fine - that sort of speed on a public road is plain lunacy. There are enough organised track days if people want to speed - and if your friend is buying the car for track - surely something could have been organised - if not - then there is no possible valid reason that anyone would need to go that fast on a public road.

Jonowong - I think that if you were speeding - and everyone else - then you all should have been booked. School Zones are 40 for a reason - ever seen a dead child? You don;t really want to - Kids don't think - they react - that is why it is up to supposedly responsible drivers to think for them. Surely if you were dropping your friends at a school - then it is reasonable to assume you knew that it was a school - and what goes with schools? 8O School Zones 8O It's not rocket science.