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Mitsubishi Recall
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:32 pm
by kazbah
I read in the paper today that Mitsubishi have recalled all their Lancer wagons because of a problem with the strut that holds the back tail gate up, some of which are over 13years old! It seems that the strut is not up to scratch and can leak therefore causing the tailgate to drop. It also mentioned that the reason Mitsubishi had was in such financial strife was because of shoddy workmanship and the fact that the company "hid" problems with their cars. Don't know about anyone else - but you have to question if it had to do with the cars that were manufactured in Australia, cos I really dont see shoddy workmanship on the FTO. Maybe being manufactured in Japan their quality standards are higher than ours...

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:40 pm
by GPXXX
there has been a thread in here somewhere about official FTO recalls in Japan for certain models...
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:41 pm
by FTO338
Tom Phillips would challenge you all the way to Supreme Court for that.

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:17 pm
by Black_FTOGPX
It is more the Mitsubishi Trucks youv'e gotto watch out for, as the wheels fly off and kill people

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:29 pm
by kazbah
GPXXX wrote:there has been a thread in here somewhere about official FTO recalls in Japan for certain models...
Yeah and when I called North Shore Mitusbishi about it, even quoting the recall number, they knew nothing about it

So how can a recall be country specific when the cars are exported around the world???

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:36 pm
by FTO338
kazbah wrote:Yeah and when I called North Shore Mitusbishi about it, even quoting the recall number, they knew nothing about it

So how can a recall be country specific when the cars are exported around the world???

Are you talking about the Lancer or FTO?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:56 pm
by GPXXX
karen, mitsubishi australia (and its dealers) would know nothing about recalls for models which are not officially sold in Oz... best to speak directly with mitsubishi japan lol...
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:32 pm
by kazbah
I'm talking about the FTO recall - and Mikey my Japnese is a bit rusty so I dont fancy my chances with Mitsubishi Japan!!!

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:40 pm
by FTO338
As mikey said, FTO was never intented to export to any other country outside Japan (hint grey imports), so its understandable if Mitsubishi Oz wouldn't have a clue when you give them this recall info.
And thats why i ask you if you talking about FTO or Lancer, as my understanding from you statement you assume FTO are been exported worldwide.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:49 pm
by kazbah
FTO338 wrote:As mikey said, FTO was never intented to export to any other country outside Japan (hint grey imports), so its understandable if Mitsubishi Oz wouldn't have a clue when you give them this recall info.
And thats why i ask you if you talking about FTO or Lancer, as my understanding from you statement you assume FTO are been exported worldwide.
I suppose export is the wrong word - what I ment was they can be imported into certain countries, ie UK, Aus, etc. All I'm saying is that if I can get genuine mitsubishi parts from a dealer here for the FTO - why cant they keep up with the recall notices for imported vehicles if they can supply the parts for that vehicle. A part that is recalled in Japan for a failure will also fail here... I dont know if the likes of Nissan Aust keep tabs on the recalls for the likes of Skylines. I know they are not obliged to do this but as I said they make the money out of supplying genuine Parts for the imports..
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:02 pm
by FTO338
Because Mitsubishi Oz was never liable for any unofficial Mitsubishi vehicles, & from their point of view they are only doing "grey import" peoples a favour by suppling some parts.
By law if you want to chase up a recall, you have go to the original importer for you FTO, & of course we all know there’s a bugger all in chance they care.
Is like when you went to buy a washing machine that it’s not an Australian model, but it’s much cheaper from some "Mr Importer", while you are able to find some parts that share with Australian model through official repairer, but do you think the actual company going to honour the warranty?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:05 pm
by Black_FTOGPX
You could always ship the car back to Japan, to get the recall carried out and then bring it back.
(yes i am an idiot)
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:35 pm
by kazbah
Liability is obviously with the country of origin. I wouldnt expect Mitsubishi Oz to pay for the recall work, but if it is a matter of safety, say a failure in the break fluid line, it would be nice to be informed before you find yourself leaving an impression of yourself on a tree somewhere!
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:58 pm
by afterburner
Its an interesting discussion - there was a similar incident here not long ago. Mitsubishi issued a recall for an issue with the Galant/Legnum VR-4 series in Japan, and Mitsubishi NZ said that they would only pay for repairs to Galant VR-4s sold new in NZ (which they were for a couple of years). But eventually they were forced to back down and cover ALL cars, irrelevant of whether they were NZ new or imported.
I guess the main differences here are that the Galant and Legnum (badged as a Galant wagon) base models were sold in bulk here new (although the Legnum VR-4 was never sold new here), and that there are so many imports in NZ now that they would outnumber NZ new cars by probably 10-1. However it was seen as a victory by many of a car manufacturer admitting liablity for safety problems with its products irrelevant of where they were first sold.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:00 pm
by Black_FTOGPX
I supplied recall in English in this thread.
http://www.ftoaustralia.com/modules.php ... c&start=60
There is another recall currently for the FTO as well, which i will try to get translatted.
Or if anyone can read Japanese then heres the link
http://u-cfc.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/Re ... erno=11249
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:25 pm
by paladin
after a good rfead i have sumed it up as this
If you have a 94-95 with a dodgy speed this could be your fix
aparently there is a screw which rubs agaisnt hte signal wire and shorts it out after lots of 'vibration'.
http://www.worldlingo.com/wl/translate
it translates the text (cant get the text with the diag as it is a picture) to be:
Box top left
When there is a standard nonconformance state
The structure which it recognizes, the device or
Circumstance and its cause of efficiency
Box top right
Because fixing of car interior electric wiring is inadequate, there are some where the opening of the hood lock release steering wheel bracket is narrow with the dispersion of attachment job, there are some which damage coating with the fixed screw of the bracket. Because of that, the particular wiring and fixed screw interferes with the vibration which is in the midst of travelling, when it is worst, wiring short-circuiting, there is a possibility the fuse being cut off, becoming direction indicator unlighted and speedometer operation defective etc..
Box Bottem left
Contents of improvement measure
Box bottem right
All vehicle, particular wiring is inspected, when the opening is insufficient, the taking turning of wiring is modified, the opening is guaranteed. In addition, when wiring has been damaged, it corrects any recoverable things, exchanges any repair impossible things with the new item.
effected cars
i cant past this well so youll need to use the translator but it sums up as
if your car is a E-DE2A or a E-DE3A made from 1994 December 16th till 1995 January 6th
i am not sure waht the de2a/de3a is all about? gr and gpx?
you will need to look at this
so if you have a 94-95 model you need to check this out
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:07 am
by GPXXX
if i'm not mistaken, the DE2A is for the GS version (with the 1800cc engine)