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Certification

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:12 am
by REDDERthanyours
My car needs to go through certification due to adjustable suspension fitted...

So if i am going to spend $500 on having a bloke check it... what more should I do?

I think I would like to upgrade the brakes... not stupidly or stupid expensively... Diamante's must have had something bigger/nice?

What else can I upgrade cost effectively?

Re: Certification

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:13 am
by Vectose
There aren't any cheap bolt on brake upgrades. GPX/GPvR brakes are the same as those on the EVO 1-3.

Cheapest option would be to get the calipers and rotors from another vehicle and have brackets made up for them. This is illegal in Australia, not sure about NZ though.

All other options will be over $1000.

Re: Certification

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:38 am
by Bennoz
Try series 1 Legnum (Pre Brembo). I hear they have the same bolt spacing as FTO. Can't remember where I read that... probably an NZ site actually.

Re: Certification

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:20 pm
by REDDERthanyours
GPX/GPvR brakes are the same as those on the EVO 1-3.


so that is an upgrade for my 95 GR... worth doing? won't need certing?

what about a K&N intake pod/filter sucky thing - does that need certing?

Re: Certification

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:26 pm
by Shhtuart
GTO brakes are 4pots and are pretty cheap if you can source a set from Japan. I was going to grab a set with rotors and pads for $400 delivered. Bracket wouldn't be too much work for a workshop.

Re: Certification

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:26 pm
by Shhtuart
Z16A twin turbo model.

Re: Certification

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:59 pm
by Technikhaus
REDDERthanyours wrote:GPX/GPvR brakes are the same as those on the EVO 1-3.


so that is an upgrade for my 95 GR... worth doing? won't need certing?

what about a K&N intake pod/filter sucky thing - does that need certing?
Righto, since I'm also NZ.
You won't need certing for the GPX/VR brakes, as there were a factory option, intakes also won't need certing.

You'll need certing for any brakes that are not available from factory, or power increases over 15% I think?
And of course the Coilovers and engine swaps/wheels much larger than factory (anything over 18" needs certing for our cars)
Any forced induction requires certing, and of course AWD/RWD conversions.

Some more info here (easy reading):
http://www.lvvta.org.nz/knowledge_base.html

Re: Certification

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:36 pm
by Shhtuart
Technikhaus wrote:
Righto, since I'm also NZ.
You won't need certing for the GPX/VR brakes, as there were a factory option, intakes also won't need certing.

You'll need certing for any brakes that are not available from factory, or power increases over 15% I think?
And of course the Coilovers and engine swaps/wheels much larger than factory (anything over 18" needs certing for our cars)
Any forced induction requires certing, and of course AWD/RWD conversions.

Some more info here (easy reading):
http://www.lvvta.org.nz/knowledge_base.html
Wow. And i thought things were hard in Australia :lol:

Re: Certification

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:41 pm
by Daniel2019
If power increase over 15%, just run different ECU maps.. you won't be making more than 15% power without an aftermarket ECU anyway, so run a sh*t power cut tune and then your daily/mid tune and a full powaaaar tune depending on setup if applicable.

Re: Certification

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:45 pm
by REDDERthanyours
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 41706.htm
i always see these... and i always assume they are bigger than what i have...
what about rear brakes? can they be enlarged too? is there a need?

where will i find better brakes... brembos from a lancer...

what are these?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 38544.htm

what about bigger brakes? pajero? diamante vrx ? some kinda big chariot delica thing? this would be a cheaper/viable option? all mitsubishi branded - no problems?

can the calipers i have go onto bigger rotors? - scratch that - dumb question...

is there a way of lowering without these god-damn coilovers? just shorter springs?
i do/did like the effect of the coilovers on the look of the car... when they first went in it was way too low but boy it looked good and handled great... i got them to lift it and make it a bit softer and now the car drives like a pig. they certainly need to be looked at by someone who knows how to set them up... i am not sure whose job that is... certainly not the old school mechanic that fitted them!

I want braided brake lines - how much extra will these cost?

right now the brake pedal is really soft and just about goes to the floor.

Re: Certification

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:49 pm
by REDDERthanyours

Re: Certification

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:00 pm
by Vectose
Those aren't an upgrade. GPX/GPvR front calipers are better than those.

You need to understand that buying calipers from another Mitsubishi doesn't mean that it's a straight fit. The bolt's wont line up, if it was so easy everyone on here would be upgrading to Brembos.

Pretty much any calipers you get you will have to have a bracket made up (unable to be engineered in Aus from what I have heard, not sure about NZ), or mix and match parts from an EVO 3 and 5 (control arms, hubs) which are hard to find and costly.

The exception I forgot about earlier is the one Bennoz mentioned, series 1 legnum, not sure on how much of an upgrade from GPX/GPvR brakes these are.

PB Brakes are another option but again, costly.


If you do happen to find something that fits, let us know. :lol:

Re: Certification

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:28 pm
by REDDERthanyours
GPX/VR brakes are better than my GR ?

Re: Certification

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 7:29 pm
by Vectose
Yes. They are twin pot whereas GR are single pot. They also have bigger rotors.

That's only for the fronts. Rears are the same.