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Removing sump?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:59 pm
by -Nighthawk-
Apparently I have THE worst luck with FTO's.
When doing the rear bank of tappets one the tappets itself managed to slip and fall down the back oil well:
Now apparently I need to remove my sump. I've already drained the oil out (fresh oil from last week...) but I was wondering how I would go about removing the rest of the sump? I know there are roughly a dozen 10mm bolts that hold it on, but what components do I need to remove to take it off? And does that oil well lead directly to the sump itself?
Thanks
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:20 pm
by -Nighthawk-
Alright I've removed the crossmember and taken most of the sump bolts out.
Do I need to remove the starter motor? I can see at least 1 bolt blocked by it, but I should be able to remove it.
Thanks
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:58 pm
by Daniel2019
Not sure as to if you need to remove starter or not, its been a while since ive had a look under there...
Starter is easy to get in and out though. Just loosen the bolts at the top of the exhaust pipe next to the starter motor so you can wiggle the starter motor through there as the exhaust gets in the way a little bit (again go easy, been a while since ive looked, 99% sure its bottom of headers). Make sure you disconnect your battery first, too.
Then its just two (or three

) bolts for the starter itself to come out. I managed to do it in like ten minutes.
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:16 pm
by vipfto
just remove all bolts (may have to remove starter) then carefully pry off using flathead driver with wide flat head so not to damage sump and it will come off. Just scrap off all excess goo and clean and degrease before adding new sealant and putting back together
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:11 pm
by -Nighthawk-
Ok thanks. Can anyone confirm that oil well leads directly to the sump?
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:14 pm
by vipfto
Yip just hope its not wedged in there. Did you try sticking magnet down gallery first?
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:18 pm
by PHIL069
Could also get caught on the crank shaft too.
At TAFE a student accidently dropped a washer down an oil gallery in a diesel engine, pulled the sump off and retrieved it.
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:19 pm
by -Nighthawk-
I'm buying a pickup magnet tomorrow to see if I can get it. I'm not too sure how to visualise where that oil well goes to :/
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:23 pm
by vipfto
Straight through head and block to sump. Even use straight piece of steel like coat hanger or welding rod to poke down to clear it. Just dont turn it over till out it will be fine seeing as you know its there before any damage done
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:15 pm
by -Nighthawk-
Ok thanks. As long as the sump is the worst place it can be that's a little relief. Feel like crap right now
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 7:33 am
by Shhtuart
Should of had your trusty assistant there
At least you can clean the gunk out your sump and get it sealed again. Plus its not like you ran the engine and destroyed it, it just took a bit longer to change the tappets.
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 7:44 am
by Bennoz
-Nighthawk- wrote:I'm buying a pickup magnet tomorrow to see if I can get it.
Pro tip: Those pickup magnets are also very good for removing & replacing the tappets on the job you started doing

Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 11:57 am
by -Nighthawk-
Finally! Pickup magnet got it out!
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:03 pm
by silverGPX
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:21 pm
by Technikhaus
Yay! haha
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 2:05 pm
by Bennoz
Result!

Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:47 pm
by -Nighthawk-
:/ ok so I started it up and the yellow transmisson light now stays on and the car struggles to find a proper idle
Any ideas?
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:55 pm
by -Nighthawk-
Never mind, found the issue. The MAF sensor wasn't plugged in *facepalm*
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 9:45 pm
by Shhtuart
There's always one thing unplugged.
Re: Removing sump?
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 11:58 pm
by -Nighthawk-
Wouldn't expect the car to go that crazy with just the MAF sensor unplugged. It seemed like something was seriously wrong with the car, kind of like when you had the vacuum line unplugged